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| Nomi |
| 02/06/04 at 06:37:40 |
| [slm] Ever heard of this: [i]Devil/Satan takes its best shot at you when you are about to die,[/i] thats why everyone no matter how pious they are should pray for dieing in the folds of deen. A scholar once bursted into tears while telling me this incident about another scholar who at his death bed asked his students to bring the Noble Qur'an and when they did, he started reading ayahs one by one and saying at the end of each ayah that "its a lie"!!!!!!! He died doing this :( Everyone was so so sad at this. Upon asking his close ones it was found out that he used to eye women! Its from an authentic source thats why i'm sharing it, reason for being curious about what sin caused him such a death was that apparently he was a pious man. Ever heard of the italic part ? Mods feel free to delete this post if it aint appropriate! [slm] |
| 02/06/04 at 08:28:33 |
| Nomi |
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| al-ajnabia |
| 02/06/04 at 08:19:22 |
| [slm] As somone who has spent her life being terribly explited by people who passed themselves off as "pious" Christians and Muslims (both Sunnis ans shi'is) yet they owned at least two slaves (me and uncle gramps). This post makes perfect sense to me. Salaam, :-) |
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| Taalibatul_ilm |
| 02/06/04 at 09:31:01 |
| [slm] The following is a small part from an article on death: http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/Death.htm Presence of Shaytan Just as the angels will be present, Shaytan will be too. It is his last chance to try to turn man to evil. He will do what he can to cause him to die upon Shirk (Polytheism), or at least commit sin. "Indeed Shaytan is present in all of your affairs, even at the time of eating. Therefore, if a morsel of food falls to the ground, one should remove any harmful thing from it, and eat it. Don’t leave it for Shaytan to eat. And when one finishes, he should lick his fingers, for no one knows where the blessing in the food might be." Related by Al-Bukhari Shaytan can assume any form he desires in order to deceive man. He can come to you when you are dying in the form of your deceased Mother or Father or close friend saying: "I come to you from the other life and I have found that Christianity is the truth." Related by Dr. Umar Al-Ashqar Al-Yawn Al-Aakhir - Al-Quyaam As-Sughraa p.29 This is the time when the weak in faith may fail. Never consider yourself to be of firm, unshakable faith. Allah holds our hearts between His fingers. Even those of great knowledge never consider themselves of unwavering faith. They fear that they may lose the gift of Islam. The Qur’an tells us of such people: "...And those firmly grounded in knowledge say: ‘We believe in it, the whole of it is from our Lord. And none will grasp the message but men of understanding. O Lord let not our hearts deviate now after You have guided us, but grant us mercy from You, for You are the Granter of bounties without measure." (Qur'an Al-Imran 3:7-8) An example of Shaytan’s work at the time of death is seen in the story of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, the great scholar and founder of the Hanbali school of thought. At his death, his son was beside him telling him: "Say Laa illaaha illallaah." Imam Ahmad replied: "No! No!" The son was horrified and repeated to his father: "Laa illaaha illallaah." And again Imam Ahmad said: "No! No!" He then lost consciousness. When he came to he told his son: "I see my devil saying: Ahmad! I was not able to deviate you!" The devil had come to him and tried to get him to admire himself for his righteous life by insisting that before he die, he say he was of the people of Paradise. Imam Ahmad reply was: "No!, No!, not until I die." Ibid [slm] |
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| Taalibatul_ilm |
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| Tesseract |
| 02/06/04 at 11:21:56 |
| [quote] [slm]Ever heard of this: Devil/Satan takes its best shot at you when you are about to die, thats why everyone no matter how pious they are should pray for dieing in the folds of deen.[/quote] Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki, in his famous series “The Hereafter”, has commented on this. Our life of this duniya (world) is a battleground. The enemy is Shaitaan. He is fully loaded, and we are well aware that he is never going to run out of weapons and strategies till the battle comes to an end. We know that the battle ends with our life. We don’t have the option to underestimate the power (of deception) of our enemy if we want to win this battle. Our enemy is always in the attacking mode/position, and we are always in the defensive mode/position. Now, imagine, you have been fighting this battle for a while, and your death time comes. In other words, the time of the battle to end has come. You and your enemy both know, that this is going to be your enemy’s very last chance to attack you, and yours to defend yourself. Think logically, and answer the following question/s. Don’t you think your enemy will use his best weapon and best strategy to win the battle at the last moment? Don’t you think, we believers would be in need to make best use of our weapon of defense (i-e our eeman/faith) at that crucial moment? And Satan saith, when the matter hath been decided: Lo! Allah promised you a promise of truth; and I promised you, then failed you. And I had no power over you save that I called unto you and ye obeyed me. So blame not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can ye help me, Lo! I disbelieved in that which ye before ascribed to me. Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom: Surah Ibrahim (Chapter 14), verse 22. Wassalamu 'alaikum. |
| 02/06/04 at 15:34:21 |
| Tesseract |
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| jannah |
| 02/06/04 at 21:16:14 |
| ajnabia, you were/are a slave owned by christians and muslims ???? where and when was that?? [quote author=al-ajnabia link=board=madrasa;num=1076067460;start=0#1 date=02/06/04 at 08:19:22] [slm] As somone who has spent her life being terribly explited by people who passed themselves off as "pious" Christians and Muslims (both Sunnis ans shi'is) yet they owned at least two slaves (me and uncle gramps). This post makes perfect sense to me. Salaam, :-)[/quote] |
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| al-ajnabia |
| 02/06/04 at 21:58:58 |
| [slm] I think I've mentioned before that my mother was 12 when I was born. When I was six my father found out where I was. he sent a man to "marry" me. He bribed the women of the house to make me availabe to him, gramps found out, realized he couldnt stop it and demanded a dowry. He offered a dowry of ten thousand dollars and was going to send it to an elder half brother of mine for my upkeep untill I was old enough to be a fully married woman. the check bounced after I was aleady overseas. My brothers other siblings made him send me back but not before my "husband' consumated the marriage, breaking my hip. This man then continued to work with the women of the house to continue to be with me, but not as his wife, and he did not keep me exclusive to him. Thus I was not being treated as a free woman. I was forced to live as much younger child. When I was supposed to have been 6 I began to enter puberty, which first graders never do. So I got "fat" for a few years until my identiy was 12. Wehn my last son was born, after he had broken my hip again, he told people the son was not his and that he was giving a fallen girl a place to stay and her child a home, but the boy was his. after the birth of each child I was given electric shock and while I was still groggy I was told waht reality was, and if i remembered or asked why my body was different or spoke a loanguage other thanenglish or spoke to the wrong person I was shocked. and if I did as they asked me to and they didnt want me to remember it i was shocked. and if i learned somenting they didnt like I was shocked. Describing isnt showing. most of the sighns are in my awra but there is a bullet wound across my left eyebrow. I am not branded or tatooed but the ring finger on my left hand has a markedly altered fingernal. These are unique to me and have made impossible to get away from the oganized pedaphiles that have been a daily part of my life since before I was born. I am posting this stuff to end this stuff. I have written the FBI and the CIA and congress and the senate and state governors and university andministrators and local and state police. but as far as the FBI and CIA goes, they dont read their own mail. It is easier to contact them this way. and if other citizens of the world can see someting in this that they can help with that is even the best theng. I dont see how this thing is in any way against islam. and since we live in america and the american indians believe in the draft consder yourself drafted. You may or may not have noticed that I am not asking for money or anything else but I am not making this up. You who have not been here have the luxury of believeing that I can just walk into a police station and tellthem this and dozens of squad cars will rush out and nab these people and the wolrd will sprout roses and rainbows. I know that this will not happen. And I get the impression that you think I am the only one I know of in this situation. When I go to the cops they ask me certain questions. The main question they ask is "how do they do this" and what tells me taht they believe me is that they let me walk out of the station. as soon as I figured out that question I set to broadcasting the answer. I still dont know every aspect but the more I write the more information I am rewarded with and the knowledge of how to stop this builds. It will take me thousands of years to solve this by myslef but tha time is greatly shortened by each individual who decicdes to put their own resources under their own administration into this effort (translate that into arabic yourself). I hope that you keep asking questions to help me calrify this information to lead to the aprehension or those who are doing this, to lead to solutions to this global problem, to lead to ways of changing society in all aspects so that these things will stop. It is now and always has been my goal to end slavery. As soon as I began to remember my own past I realized without any doubt that in this story are the keys to achieve a world without slavery. I knew that it was an ugly story and it would not be pleasant to tell it or to hear it, but the fact that I am willing to tie this story to my own identiy should be proof that this story is true. Only someone who has lived life without friends would be willing to ostracize herself this way. Only someone who has never known a life except on the brink of ditruction would be brave enough to say thesse things. I have not yet told the whole story nor am I now capable of doing so, but if you keep asking critical questions ti will force me to keep thinking deeper and deeper. I hope you are still willing to let me keep doing this here. I have looked at a lot of sites and this is the only one that had made it feel to me that there is a possiblity of expressing all the neccesary details in such a way as to put a pig dent in this problem. If were on were on, if not thank you for letting me have this breif opportunity for another attempt at ending slavery. [slm] :-) |
| 02/06/04 at 22:03:29 |
| al-ajnabia |
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| jannah |
| 02/06/04 at 23:01:31 |
| wlm, well it sounds like you've been through traumatic times. and it doesn't sound like you'll find your closure in the impossibility of trying to apprehend those that committed those things. perhaps as someone suggested, seeking closure and help through counseling and support groups and stuff would be more helpful to you. most of us here aren't connected to the cia or fbi or anything else and cannot help you that way. and we also aren't professional counselors that can help you get over these things in the past. but since you live in the US there are alot of resources open to you that don't cost money and can be anonymous as well. good luck inshallah and may Allah help guide you with your problems. |
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| 02/06/04 at 23:07:16 |
| [slm] well, sister al-ajnabia, we are sorry that you have lived in such an evil surrounding, and your story is very alien to us and hence I personally, am unable to relate, perhaps because Allah has been merciful to us by placing is much safer environments. May you always seek Allah's protection from any further evil upon you. Anyway, back to this topic about the last moment before death. I came accross this great true story from http://www.khutbah.com which is from Muhammad Al-shareef's khutbahs. To save space, I have only included parts of the story... Regret By Muhammad Al-Shareef A police officer in a Muslim country wrote the following letter to a Shaykh describing the events that led to his return to Allah. He recalls: Seeing accidents and crash victims was a normal part of my day, but one incident was different. My partner and I had parked on the shoulder of the highway and began to chat. In a random second, the scene shattered to the hideous sound of metal bodies becoming one. We threw our heads back to see what had happened: a head-on collision, the result of a vehicle slipping into the lane of the oncoming traffic. You couldn’t describe the carnage. Two young men sprawled in the first car, both in critical condition. We carried them gently away from the car and rested them on the ground. Quickly we returned to assist the owner of the second car. He was dead. Back we went to the two young men lying side by side on the pavement. My partner began dictating the Shahadah to them. “Say: La iIaha illAllah (there is no god but Allah), La iIaha illAllah…” ... their tongues wouldn’t acknowledge. They started humming the hypnotic lyrics of some song. I was terrified. My partner had experience however and he kept repeating his instruction. I stood watching, no movement, eyes locked. Never in my life had I seen anything similar to what was going on before me. In fact, I’ve never actually seen someone die, and never in such a satanic way. My partner continued to instruct them to say the Shahadah but there was no use. The hum of their song came to a slow silence, slowly. The first one stopped and then the other. Not a stir. Dead. We carried them to our patrol car, my partner made no effort to speak. Not a whisper between us two as we carried the corpses to the nearest hospital... .......... 2nd part.... The police officer that we mentioned earlier fell back into routine, as he narrates, and started to drift from Allah. But another event happened to him that sealed the return. He continues: ... What an odd world. After some time, about six months, a strange accident took place. A young man was moving along the highway normally, but within one of the tunnels leading to the city, he was maimed by a flat tire. To the side of the tunnel he parked and stepped to the back to remove the spare tire. The whistle of a speeding car from behind. In a second, it collided with the crippled car, the young man in-between. He fell to the ground with critical injuries. I rushed to the scene, myself and another partner other than the first. Together we carried the young man’s body into our patrol car and phoned the hospital to prepare for his arrival. He was a young adult in his blossom years. Religious, you could tell from his appearance. He was mumbling when we carried him, but in our rush, we had not paid attention to what he was saying. However, when we placed him on his back in the patrol car we could make it out. Through the pain his heart was reciting Qur’an! He was so immersed in the recitation ... Subhan Allah, you would have never said that this person was in intense pain. Blood had soaked his clothes crimson red, his bones had clearly snapped in several places. To tell the truth, he looked like he was staring into the eyes of death. He continued to read in his unique, tender voice. Reciting each verse in proper rhythm. In my entire life, I had never heard any recitation like it. I said to myself, I’m ... I'm going to instruct him to say the Shahadah just like I saw my friend doing; especially since I had previous experience. My partner and I listened intently to that soft voice. I felt a shiver shock my back and up my arm, the hair stood. Suddenly, the hymn ceased. I watched silently as his hand rose softly. He had his index finger pointed upward to the heavens, saying the Shahadah (La ilaha illa Allah/There is no god but Allah). Then ... his head slumpt. Nothing. I jumped to the back seat, felt his hand, his heart, his breathing. He was dead! I couldn’t stop staring at him. A tear fell but I hid it in shame. I turned back to my partner and told him that the boy’s life had ceased - he burst out loud crying. Seeing a man cry like that, I could not control myself and my partner faded away behind the fall of my own tears. The patrol car fogged from the emotions. We arrived at the hospital. As we rushed through the corridors, we told all the doctors, nurses, and onlookers what had happened. So many people were affected by what we said, some stood there speechless and tearful. No one wanted to lose sight of the boy until they had been assured of the time and place he would be buried. One of the hospital staff phoned the boys home. His brother picked it up and was told of the accident. His brother told us about him: He used to go out every Monday to visit his only grandmother outside of town. Whenever he visited her, he made sure to spend time with the poor children idling the streets and the orphans. The town knew him - he was the one that would bring them the Islamic books and tapes. His dusty Mazda would be filled with rice and sugar and even candies – couldn’t forget the candies – for those families who were in need. He would not stand for anyone to discourage him from the long journey to that town. He would always politely reply that the long drive gave him time to review his Quran and listen to Islamic lectures on his cassette deck. And ... and that with every step to the town he hoped for the reward he would find with Allah... It is true, brothers and sisters( that Allah is Merciful and forgives and forgives. [Yet I am quite Forgiving ... ] But to whom? [ ... towards anyone who turns (in repentance) and believes and acts honorable; then he will be guided.] - Surah Taha 20/82 :-) |
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| Orange_Tree |
| 02/07/04 at 16:27:39 |
| [slm] That last story was extremely moving. Jazakallah for posting that. I remember my dad telling some hadith i think it was about how shaytan never lets up even up until ur deathbed and so we must remain always vigilant of this. It really prays on my mind how i will one day die. I'd like, Inshallah to die with dignity although I must admit I'm quite fearful as to what my last words will be because I think that whatever is in your heart will come out i.e. that hadith where a shopkeeper guy is dying and keeps talking abt his shop and stuff for sale when ppl around are instructing him to say shahadah. It's food for thought anyway. |
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| nida |
| 02/09/04 at 00:13:01 |
| [slm] yes...its a very scary to think about how you will die...how shaitan will try his best to lead you astray from Islam. we should pray to Allah(swt) that we should die when we have strong imaan/faith. isn't faith THE only thing that counts in the end??!! [wlm] :-) |
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| Nomi |
| 02/11/04 at 00:28:34 |
| [slm] Thanks for the input ppl, specially sis Taalibatul_ilm and bro BOI (BOI, i have something to say to... at the end inshaAllah :) ) I wanted to talk about my imaan and my death a litle, i hope u guys will not mind my rant! I was thinking that as Muslims we believe that we can die any minute right? Right, so what if i died the moment i was having a fight with someone back in days. Would have i been able to utter 'Kalimah' in that state, full of rage? What if i died in one of 10s of those accidents i had while bike racing back in days, would i have uttered 'Kalimah' in that madness especially when we know now that the satan takes his best shot at u when u r to die!! Or what about when the gang and i were doing bhangra in junoon's concerts? [i]Reminds me of this incident a friend told me, he was in saudi and some big shot had a severe road accident infront of him, his car was gone so was he and his last words were the song that he was listening to in his car!![/i] Thats not all, what if i died while watching Titanic (yep!) especially the moment when both of them were playing 'keeklee pakeeklee' in basement during that festival, 'especially' when he was sketching her when she was Alf (Alif) naked (urdu word is funnier) OR when they were in that car!!! To tell u the truth, 'Legends of the Fall' touched me more than any other movie, maybe due to the fact that i dont like 'mommy daddy' (as they say in my native lingo) type of heros. So, what if i died when brad pit and that red indian lady decided to bathe in that pond Alf naked? What would've been my last words if i died right then? ......... maybe UHHH LA LA!! Not to say that all of us get so much into that stuff (if we do it), let it be movies, bike racing, pop concerts [s]street fights[/s] or other such stuff but what would i tell Allah when i die right at that time and Allah asks me, "What were you doing there son?" (Note that I'm doing it by choice not by chance) [slm] ps: bro BOI, i like ur inputs, keep up the good work. And i was wanting to say this to you for so long that, if you ever come back to pakiland or even visit ur relatives sometime.... um..... just be safe ;D |
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| Nomi |
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| al-ajnabia |
| 02/11/04 at 09:40:54 |
| [slm] Muslims beleive that death could happen any time, that is true, but we still set the alarm clock when we go to bed at nigth. I had a thought yesterday. What would we think of someone who just realised they were dying so fast that they only had the ablity to pronounce "Ash-sha/" and then they were dead. What if you were not a muslim and didnt know what they were trying to sqeeze into thier last minutes. What would you think that persons last words were or even tell people they were? [wlm] |
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| nida |
| 02/11/04 at 23:21:19 |
| [slm] whoever heard the last words of the person dying, and didn't quite understand them...and if they were curious enough..wouldn't they research on it? for example, if the words were..."la ilaha illalah.." imagine if that happend to a non-muslim....wouldn't he/she would be convinced that Islam is the truth? [wlm] :-) |
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| al-ajnabia |
| 02/11/04 at 23:44:48 |
| [slm] one of my favorite stories of "my people" is of the death of the great chief White Cloud aka Kicking bird. He died shortly after his people the Kiowa indians had all converted to Missionary baptist however he had been a friend of my ancestor who I explained in a previous post who had brought the Quran to the indians though they had or seemd to have a falling out in later years. Well any way as the story goes he dies while eating a bowl of soup he just goes "ashhad" and falls face first into his soup and thats it. Indians had reall good memories back then they know exactly how he pronounced it. People still tell that story, even young people. Just thought I'd share, Salaam Al-Ajnabia |
| 02/12/04 at 08:27:00 |
| al-ajnabia |
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