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books on Madhahib.
Maliha
02/26/04 at 09:03:08
[slm] I am doing research on the Madhahib (the main 4)..their history, development, Usool...role of Taqlid and Ijtihaad (and scope for both)...necessity of following, which one to "choose", how to choose...etc etc. One awesome bro recommended a book by Taqi Usmani, I don't remember the title..and now that i have a chance to read it, I would love to know which one it is. But basically i need any and all recommendations on this topic....books, sites, etc.. I have started the research so please don't think I am tranna mooch off y'all :P but i don't think i have enuff material. Please help zis sista out:) [wlm]
02/26/04 at 09:04:37
Maliha

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timbuktu
02/26/04 at 09:30:52
[slm][quote author=Nur_al_Layl link=board=kabob;num=1077804188;start=0#0 date=02/26/04 at 09:03:08] ........... the Madhahib (the main 4)..their history, development, Usool...role of Taqlid and Ijtihaad (and scope for both)...necessity of following, which one to "choose", how to choose...etc etc. .......... [/quote] :) have you already decided to exclude us who do not follow any particular madhab but prefer to follow the authentic AHadeeth, of course after consulting the scholars of Quran and Hadith?  :o I thought the necessity of following one particular madhab has now been relaxed by its proponents there is an Egyptian book called "Madhahib-e-arba3a", but I don't remember the author. Perhaps tomorrow, i will visit a bookshop, and provide the name. here is a link to a thread which might be of help, but I don't accept the arguments for taqlid being obligatory if a faqih's ruling is in conflict with Sahih Hadith. http://www.ummah.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28777

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superFOB
02/26/04 at 11:06:23
[slm] You can find mufti Taqi Usmani's book "The Legal Status of Following a Madhab" here: http://www.al-rashad.com/books/misc.htm There are other books on the same webpage relevant to the subject, e.g., Abdul Hakim Murad's "Understanding the Four Madhabs" is also there.

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Maliha
02/26/04 at 12:25:38
[slm] Jazakumu Allahu Khayran bros:) bro Timbuktu, I was going to answer the question whether it is necessary to follow or not? but i have to read up and really understand for me self. There are many conditions either way, if you follow (you really gotta know why? there is no blind faith in Islam) and if you don't ... So..that is why I am writing ze paper, cuz i am very ignooorant when it comes to this and many other issues. more help is appreciated:) Jazakumu Allahu Khayran in advance 8) [wlm]

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betason
02/26/04 at 14:24:48
[slm] There is awesome book called The 4 Imams By Muhammed Abu Zahra(raheemullah).  He was mashallah a really good scholar.  The book is amazing but it is about 400 pages and it goes through the lives of the 4 imams, their school of thought, how they came about their rulings and all other sorts of stuff.   The publisher is I think dar al taqwa or dar ul khair or somthing along those lines. We have it at the bookstore i help out at, so if you can;t find it anywhere near you, let me know andi can send to you if you want. [wlm]

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Mossy
02/26/04 at 19:26:48
Salams, I'll second Br. Abu Zahra's is probably the best intro - it's actually 4 books, one on each. Not all that expensive or uncommon either - isn't it more like 500 pages? The differences in their approaches become to be apparent just from these, but it provides a good base from which to approach the other topics, such as usul etc - the standard books of fiqh for each madhab provide a nice overview of these. Aqeedah is an interesting thing to look at too, but basics first I suppose.. Pick up Man and the Universe on the page SuprFOB linked too, I did like that. I've always thought of madhabs as providing an internally cohesive framework and implementation of Islam for those who do not have enough knowledge to be faqih themselves. ie most of us. It's also nice to pick up some of their fiqh books, although these can be a bit scary if you don't have a decent grounding in usul. Take care and good luck, ws Mossy

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AyeshaZ
02/28/04 at 13:43:55
[wlm] Also, there is a fatwa by Shaykh Muratabul Hajj " The importance of following a Madhab" translated in English by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf. It’s only like 80 or less pages and is available at Alhambra!

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bhaloo
02/28/04 at 18:57:13
[slm] I highly recommend Muhammad Abu Zahra's book, the Four Imams.  It provides a good history on how each of these 4 schools developed.  Excellent book.  Its very interesting to see where each of these scholars took their knowledge from.  Dr. Bilal Phillips, Evolution of Fiqh is another very good book explaining the evolution of fiqh and the different schools of thought that developed and the reasons for them and why they were necessary for the particular circumstances. As Maliha pointed out there is no blind faith in Islam.

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Abu_Hamza
02/29/04 at 17:47:21
[slm] [quote author=Nur_al_Layl link=board=kabob;num=1077804188;start=0#0 date=02/26/04 at 09:03:08] I am doing research on the Madhahib (the main 4)..their history, development, Usool...role of Taqlid and Ijtihaad (and scope for both)...necessity of following, which one to "choose", how to choose...etc etc.[/quote] Wow, that's a loaded set of requirements :) Frankly, I don't think there is any *one* book in English which will give you all that you're looking for.  But here are some suggestions: 1. [i]Evolution of Fiqh[/i], by Abu Ameenah Bilal Phillips This book will tell you how the different madhahib evolved, some of the unique characteristics of each one's usool, etc.  It will give you most of what you're looking for. 2. [i]Ethics of Disagreement in Islam[/i], by Taha Jabir al-Alwany Besides these two, if you want to delve into the subject of whether one should or should not follow a madh-hab, I would suggest that you speak to a shaykh that you trust.  Simply reading a book or a fatwa will not give you the whole picture.  The shaykh that you spent 12 days with last year has spoken about this also.  You can ask his devout students on this board to give you the lowdown (se7en, jannah, deenb4dunya, et al. :)) But if you insist on having something on paper, I'll give you two sources from both sides.   From those who say a layman must follow one of the four madh-habs: 1. [i]The Legal Status of Following a Madhhab[/i], by Taqi Usmani 2. [i]The Importance of Following a Madhhab[/i], by Murabit al-Haaj (tr. Hamza Yusuf) From those who say one should not follow any madh-hab blindly, but follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah: 1. [i]Should a Muslim Follow a Particular Madhhab[/i], by Muhammad Sultan Al-Ma'soomi 2. [i]The Prophet's Prayer Described[/i], by Nasiruddin al-Albani (the book does not talk about the topic of following a madh-hab specifically, but there is plenty of discourse in the footnoes, foreword and appendices on this issue). Again, I suggest you speak to a reputable, trustworthy shaykh about this.  Often times (though not always) the writers of these books only seem to be disagreeing because of the differences in their semantics, whereas at the core there is no disagreement :) Wallahu ta'ala a'lam. Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

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Nomi
03/01/04 at 03:34:00
[slm] [quote author=Abu_Hamza link=board=kabob;num=1077804188;start=0#8 date=02/29/04 at 17:47:21] From those who say one should not follow any madh-hab [color=Red]blindly[/color], but follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah: [/quote] I would like to point out something. In this very thread the word "blindly" was used 3-4 times and on all such instances it was used for following "one" school of thought. And not otherwise! Lets all be 'moderate' and lets all show 'tolerance'. Its all about selection of our words. jazakallah, [slm] ps: i did note "For "[color=blue]those[/color]" who say..." but still..
03/01/04 at 03:40:17
Nomi

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Abu_Hamza
03/01/04 at 20:51:04
[slm] The point that Br. Nomi is raising is actually valid.  Here's the deal: Not all people who follow a madh-hab follow it blindly (though one has to admit that *many* people do, and have done so in our history ... this is a historical fact ... read "Evolution of Fiqh," "Ethics ..."  for more on this).  There have been many scholars from our past who were known as Hanbali, Shaafi'ee, etc., but were in fact mujtahids themselves (Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali, for instance).  They differed with many opinions of their own madh-hab, but still retained their title of Hanbali, Shaafi'ee, etc., because that was the madh-hab that they primarily adhered to. Another fact (which, again, some of these books will talk about if you read them) is the unfortunate tendency of many self-acclaimed "anti-madhhab" laymen to begin interpreting the texts on their own, independent from the scholars.  Often times these people also develop a habit of criticizing the imams, and *everyone* who follows a madh-hab.  Warnings against these and other related tendencies are highlighted in Murabit al-Haaj's booklet and Taqi Usmani's book. So, having said all this, may one follow a madh-hab? I leave it for you to read the books, talk to the shuyookh, and figure it out :) Take care. Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

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Anonymous
03/01/04 at 21:06:02
Assalamu alaikum, Some good readings on madhabs, [url=http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/madhhabstlk.htm]Resource1[/url] [url=http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/madhhab.htm]Resource2[/url] [url=http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/newmadhh.htm]Resource3[/url]

Re: books on Madhahib.
Abu_Hamza
03/02/04 at 00:03:41
[slm] Here's a thread from the old message board where several articles were posted on the topic of madh-habs.  This is when discussion on this topic was not banned no the board (it's a banned discussion topic now, as you all know): http://www.jannah.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl/YaBB.pl?board=madrasa&action=display&num=1077&start=0 To Sr. Nur-al-Layl, I would reiterate what I said earlier: [quote]If you want to delve into the subject of whether one should or should not follow a madh-hab, I would suggest that you speak to a shaykh that you trust.  Simply reading a book or a fatwa will not give you the whole picture.  The shaykh that you spent 12 days with last year has spoken about this also.  You can ask his devout students on this board to give you the lowdown (se7en, jannah, deenb4dunya, et al. :))[/quote] Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
03/02/04 at 00:04:30
Abu_Hamza

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faith
03/02/04 at 01:09:41
[slm] ok, I need to ask a simple question, if someone could please enlighten me.   As we can all agree, the hadeeth books of saheeh bukhari and saheeh muslims are considered compilations of authentic sayings and actions of our prophet (p.b.q.h).   My question is this:  when were al-bukhari and muslim's works commenced and fiinished?  How far apart in the no. of yrs are they from the main 4 imams? I am assuming that bukhari and muslim works came years later after the 4 schools of thoughts were established.   Thanks,  :)

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superFOB
03/02/04 at 10:58:16
[slm] [quote author=faith link=board=kabob;num=1077804188;start=10#13 date=03/02/04 at 01:09:41]As we can all agree, the hadeeth books of saheeh bukhari and saheeh muslims are considered compilations of authentic sayings and actions of our prophet (p.b.u.h).[/quote] As far as I can remember, there are four other books of hadith, that are also considered authentic, besides bukhari and muslim. [quote author=faith link=board=kabob;num=1077804188;start=10#13 date=03/02/04 at 01:09:41]My question is this:  when were al-bukhari and muslim's works commenced and fiinished?  How far apart in the no. of yrs are they from the main 4 imams? I am assuming that bukhari and muslim works came years later after the 4 schools of thoughts were established.[/quote] Bukhari and Muslim were compiled in the third century AH. The four schools of fiqh crystallized by the end(?) of the same century. Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal was alive when both Muslim and Bukhari were compiled, in fact Imam Bukhari was a student of Imam Hanbal(verify). Imam Hanbal was the last of the four imams to leave this world. Imam shafa'ee died in 204 AH - he was a contemporary of Imam Hanbal. Btw, I thought Nur (one who started the thread) was on leave from this board, so why are we posting in this thread?
03/10/04 at 09:25:40
superFOB

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Tesseract
03/03/04 at 01:49:35
Wa'alaikum Assalam wa Rahmatullah,        [quote]My question is this:  when were al-bukhari and muslim's works commenced and fiinished?  How far apart in the no. of yrs are they from the main 4 imams? I am assuming that bukhari and muslim works came years later after the 4 schools of thoughts were established.     Thanks, :)  [/quote]        [quote]As far as I can remember, there are five other books of hadith, that are also considered authentic, besides bukhari and muslim. [/quote]         Here is the info. I have ( U might still wanna verify it) : There are 6  collections of Ahadeeth generally considered by Islamic scholars as the most authentic and reliable: 1. Sahih Al-Bukhari. 2. Sahih Al-Muslim. 3. Sunan Abu Dawud. 4. Sunan Tirmidhi. 5. Sunan Ibn-e-Majah. 6. Sunan Nisai.       Years of Birth and expiration of the four great Aimmah (Plural of Imam) of Fiqh, and Imams of Hadeeth: 1. IMAM ABU HANEEFAH:        Born in 80 A.H and died in 150 A.H 2. IMAM MAALIK:        Born in 93 A.H and died in 179 A.H 3. IMAM SHAF'I:        Born in 150 A.H and died in 204 A.H 4. IMAM AHMAD BIN HAMBAL:        Born in 164 A.H and died in 241 A.H 5. Imam Bukhari:        Born in 194 A.H and died in 256 A.H 6. Imam Al-Muslim:        Born in 204 A.H and died in 261 A.H 7. Imam Abu Daud:       Born in 202 A.H and died in 275 A.H 8. Imam Tirmizi:       Born in 208/209 A.H and died in 279 A.H 9. Imam Nisai:        Born in 215 A.H and died in 303 A.H 10. Imam Ibn-e-Majah:        Born in 209 A.H and died in 273 A.H Allahu Ta'ala A'lam. Wassalam.

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superFOB
03/10/04 at 09:28:25
[slm] I was wondering, is it possible to practice taqlid and not believe in tassawwuf? After all, there ARE ghair muqallid's with a favorable opinion of tassawwuf.
03/10/04 at 09:31:25
superFOB

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jannah
03/15/04 at 01:08:32
[wlm] wow superfob... ask a scholar inshallah... just as a reminder the topic of sufism and madhabs are banned.. i'm sure if u checked out the archives u'll see the previous threads on the subjects with all the arguing and bitterness and realize why they are banned.
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