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| Nomi |
| 02/27/04 at 15:13:26 |
| [slm] * Did you know that you can get married at 9th or 10th of Muharram even? If yes then can you dare do it? * Did you know that some ppl think that its bid'ah [i](if they do it as part of deen)[/i] to embrace 3 times on Eids as they believe 1 time is sunnah. If yes then did you ever try it? ([i]I did but failed miserably, i tried holding them tight on one side but .... u know... eid mubarak 1, eid mubarak 2, eid mubarak 3 and my superbly ironed shalwar kameez is history[/i]) * Why is it that ALL the scholars use kufi or imama and it seems that wearing it is part of deen, because all of them wear it, and no one (common ppl) dares call it bid'ah. why? [slm] ~Sphygmomanometer [size=1][i](Hyper's upper BP is 160 and lower is 110.. take ur pills boy, need to get it down to 80-120 :) )[/i][/size] |
| 03/01/04 at 06:35:41 |
| Nomi |
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| deenb4dunya |
| 02/27/04 at 16:51:00 |
| [slm] [quote]* Why is it that ALL the scholars use kufi or imama and it seems that wearing it is part of deen, because all of them wear it, and no one (common ppl) dares call it bid'ah. why? [/quote] I believe that it's a sunna for men to cover their hair... as in wear something on their head... WAllaahu 'Alam... [wlm] Mujahada |
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| Nomi |
| 03/01/04 at 06:24:36 |
| [slm] Thanks for the reply sis mujahada (i really like ur name btw). I have something to say for that comment of yours, later inshaAllah. For now i need input from other madnite's 'and' lurkers ;) on my first post and on what i'm going to add now i.e. * For those of you having roots in subcontinent: Folding ur prayer rug (top quarter.. side corner) after praying or when its spread there on the floor/carpet without anybody praying on it. Its not a sunnah, as far as i know its nothing, and some ppl still do it. Do we have someone on here who still does it? and may i ask why? Well i used to do it but not anymore! * Oh this one is interesting. For those of you who have been or are full time students of deen at some 'regular' university. How much was the duration of your 'islamic' degree? one year? 2,3, 4 years? My brother is in his 4th and last year of islamic studies, hes doing "[i]dora-a-hadith[/i]" (mureed of hadith?) this year. So, my question, do these schools do bid'ah by setting a particular number of "days" for such 'religious' courses/degrees ??? Answers then... sis rkhan? amkamb? faith? mujahada? ... bro timbuktu? Mussy? MIT? hyper? others?? [slm] Asim Zafar. ps: just a note... i never really talk to my bro about this place or b4 posting anything here. So my gebrish is entitled to me only.. fanks pps (where would i be without them!!): Two questions from my first post are still not addressed... come on ppl... its a request :) |
| 03/01/04 at 07:43:38 |
| Nomi |
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| Orange_Tree |
| 03/01/04 at 06:36:05 |
| [slm] [quote]* For those of you having roots in subcontinent: Folding ur prayer rug after praying or when its spread there on the floor/carpet without anybody praying on it. Its not a sunnah, as far as i know its nothing, and some ppl still do it. Do we have someone on here who still does it? and may i ask why? Well i used to do it but not anymore! [/quote] I fold up my prayer mat after I finish with it so that it doesn't get dirty or dusty. I thought that was reason for folding it away. Some ppl like to fold up their mat even just by folding up one corner when it isn't being used. Not quite sure why though. |
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| M.F. |
| 03/01/04 at 07:19:49 |
| Everyone here in Al Maghreb folds up their prayer rugs after they're done with them. For several reasons: A. they're usually spread out in an area that's used for other things besides prayer and don't want to step on them and get them dirty. B.many people have small houses and don't have space for *just* a prayer area. C. a girl once told me her mother said the shaytan prays on it if you don't fold it up :D I wonder who he prays to. does he face the qibla? ;D |
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| se7en |
| 03/01/04 at 10:08:42 |
| as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, bro, I think you have to be careful with your use of the word bid'ah. It has a very specific definition and very dangerous implications! (as well all know from the famous hadeeth, that ever bid'ah is a misguidance, and every misguidance leads to the hellfire). to keep it simple, a bid'ah is something done in the way of the deen, in an attempt to bring about nearness to Allah, that is different from or alternate to the way mandated in the shari'ah. so for example, hugging a certain number of times on eid. if there is a way specified in the shar' about that (from the sunnah of rasulullah [saw] or in the Quran), and someone chooses an alternate way of doing so, saying that this *other* way is better or brings us closer to Allah, then that is bid'ah. or, if there is no textual evidence of something from the sunnah, but someone makes the baseless claim that something is good and is going to be rewarded by Allah, then that can fall into the category of bid'ah as well. as for wearing a kufi/imama, I remember hearing my imam speak about this.. he said that every report of Rasulullah [saw] indicates that when he was in salah his head was covered. so.. I think that may be a reason why scholars do that? Allahu a'lam wasalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 03/01/04 at 13:43:58 |
| [slm] [quote author=Sphygmomanometer link=board=madrasa;num=1077912806;start=0#0 date=02/27/04 at 15:13:26]* Did you know that you can get married at 9th or 10th of Muharram even? If yes then can you dare do it?[/quote] What's wrong with getting married on the 9th or 10th of Muharram? It is not part of our Deen to mourn for people's death years after the incident has happened. (In fact, it violates the command of the Prophet [saw] which says *not* to do so). Furthermore, the Prophet [saw] did not specify any day for marriage, nor did he prohibit people from marrying on any day(s). Therefore, one can marry on any day. However, some wise people say it's good not to get married in Ramadan, because of obvious reasons! (i.e., the man and woman will not be allowed to have intimate relations with each other while they are fasting, and the fact that they are newly wed will make that a burden upon them which is unnecessary if the wedding can wait until after Ramadan). Even then, it is not prohibited to marry in Ramadan, as there is no text that says so. [quote]* Did you know that some ppl think that its bid'ah [i](if they do it as part of deen)[/i] to embrace 3 times on Eids as they believe 1 time is sunnah. If yes then did you ever try it? ([i]I did but failed miserably, i tried holding them tight on one side but .... u know... eid mubarak 1, eid mubarak 2, eid mubarak 3 and my superbly ironed shalwar kameez is history[/i])[/quote] I think se7en answered this part. Basically if you believe that embracing 3 times is the *only* proper way to hug on Eid, and not doing so will deprive you from reward, then that is not correct and may fall under the category of bid'ah. However, I know that some people hug three times because it's an odd number, and there is a hadith which says Allah (awj) is odd (as opposed to even), and He likes things that are in odd numbers. I agree with you though. One (or two) big, long hug(s) brotherly hug is 10 times better than 3 quick hugs simply done as a formality. [quote]* Why is it that ALL the scholars use kufi or imama and it seems that wearing it is part of deen, because all of them wear it, and no one (common ppl) dares call it bid'ah. why?[/quote] Hmm. Just because all the scholars do something doesn't make it part of the Deen :) It may be good to do it, because it's good to imitate good people. But it still doesn't make it part of the Deen. What makes something part of the Deen is it being present in the Qur'an and Sunnah. Having said that, covering the head has been a cultural norm in most Eastern cultures for centuries. It's a form of respect. It's considered indecent and disrespectful to go outside with your head uncovered for men. It may be dying down in certain cultures now (with the advent of westernization perhaps), but certain old people still practice this norm in many cultures. Many scholars wear the imamah because of their love for the Prophet [saw], knowing that he wore an imamah. But it is not *sunnah* in the *legal* meaning of that word. It *is* sunnah, however, in the sense that this was part of the way that Rasulullah [saw] did things (just like his use of camels for travel, wearing of certain clothes, etc.) This means that there is no reward for wearing an imamah *in itself*, but there would be reward if one does it because he wants to imitate the Prophet [saw] out of love. Wallahu a'lam. Now, as for why people call it a bid'ah. I have not seen people saying that it's a bid'ah to wear an imamah or a kufi. What I have heard is people saying that it's a bid'ah to wear a kufi/imamah *for salaah.* This is said for a reason. The reason is because many people wear the kufi/imamah in salah believing that it is sunnah (the legal meaning of this word) to wear the kufi in salaah. Some people even go to the extreme to say that it is *makrooh* not to have your head covered while praying (and the reason they give is, because the Prophet [saw] never prayed with his head uncovered). It is for these reasons why some people say that these people are committing a bid'ah. The fact of the matter is that the Prophet [saw] never covered or uncovered his head *for salaah*. He prayed in the form that he was in. His head was covered outside of salaah, and when the time for salaah came, he prayed in the condition that he was before salaah - with an imaamah on his head. I have also seen some narrations which indicate that he prayed with his head uncovered *sometimes*. Again, that was because he didn't have anything on his head before the salaah, and when the time for salaah came, he prayed in the condition that he was in. And Allah certainly knows best! Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah |
| 03/01/04 at 13:45:13 |
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| Nomi |
| 03/01/04 at 22:45:16 |
| [slm] --se7en [quote] [color=Yellow]bro, [/color]I think [color=Yellow]you [/color]have to be careful with [color=Yellow]your [/color]use of the word bid'ah [/quote] sis, if that comment was directed to me then i wasn't 'calling' it a bid'ah and was rather 'asking' that whether its considered a bid'ah by anyone here on the board or not. Thanks anyways for you defining the concept of bid'ah, goes to show that our respected sis was attentive in her classes (: --me [quote] [color=Yellow]* Did you know that you can get married at 9th or 10th of Muharram even?[/color] If yes then can you dare do it? [/quote] That comment of mine was meant to imply that i think there is 'nothing' wrong in getting married at 9th or 10th of muharram. Maybe you were asking others that what wrong do they think is there in getting married on those dates... -- Abu Hamza [quote] [color=Yellow]What's wrong with getting married on the 9th or 10th of Muharram? [/color] It is not part of our Deen to mourn for people's death years after the incident has happened. [/quote] It seems both of us have same belief alhamdulillah :) and i really appreciate your detailed reply. Actually the purpose of this thread is to get people talking about what 'they' do rather than explaining how stuff is done by various groups, getting my drift? The idea is to get ppl talking that if they are doing what i mentioned, then what made them do it? For example, i dont know a single Muslim who got married on 9th or 10th of muharram, do you folks know any? would anyone on here break this shackle? As we know that not only shiites (shias) but also some ppl from ahlul sunnah also mourn on these dates so what does it say about all the rest of us who dont believe in mourning when 'none' among us dares do it (get married on those dates) due to what we'll be thought of by others (peer pressure?) Here, lemme compile my questions again and add a new one too ;) .. for you and others to answer them! [list] [*] Did you know that you can get married at 9th or 10th of Muharram even? If yes then would you dare do it? [*] Why is it that ALL the scholars use kufi or imama and it seems that wearing it is part of deen, because all of them wear it, and no one (common ppl) dares call it bid'ah. why? [*] For those of you having roots in subcontinent: Folding ur prayer rug (top quarter.. side corner) after praying or when its spread there on the floor/carpet without anybody praying on it. Its not a sunnah, as far as i know its nothing, and some ppl still do it. Do we have someone on here who still does it? and may i ask why? Well i used to do it but not anymore! [*] Oh this one is interesting. For those of you who have been or are full time students of deen at some 'regular' university. How much was the duration of your 'islamic' degree? one year? 2,3, 4 years? My brother is in his 4th and last year of islamic studies, hes doing "dora-a-hadith" (mureed of hadith?) this year. So, my question, do these schools do bid'ah by setting a particular number of "days" for such 'religious' courses/degrees (does the "days" thing ring some bells about any dawah group ?!) [*] <here is a new entry> [*] I know there is a difference of opinion on this one but i want to ask something without anyone going there... i.e. all of us must have seen those peeps who quickly finish there prayer by their ak47 sujood and when done make a quick 'ameen' by raising their hands in dua (i remember bro ziaullah mentioning this class in one of his lectures?) Its not a very good joke (apologies in advance) but it seems that some ppl do it just outta habbit without really knowing what they are doing... like that half a second raise of hands + ameen sounds like.. <quick praying>... quick 'assalamu alaikum wa rehmatullah' on da right, quick 'assalamu alaikum wa rehmatullah' on da left, quickly raising their hands for dua, prolly saying.. "go to hell... ameen"... and off he goes... [/list] whats that ? I understand many qs are making some of you cringe, still, i want inputs that whether ppl on here believe-in/practice the stuff i mentioned or not? I'll respond to your posts later and sis M.F, i've heard that devil praying thingy too... so, ppl, do you or did you used to turn the corner of ur praying rug? was this the reason behind it? [slm] Asim Zafar. |
| 03/01/04 at 22:50:56 |
| Nomi |
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| rkhan |
| 03/01/04 at 23:56:02 |
| [slm] I felt kind of surprised to see my name up there…have I given the (wrong) impression that I have some knowledge or training in Islaamic studies? If so, now’s the time for a disclaimer. What little information I have – can’t presume to call it knowledge-- is courtesy books, articles, cassettes and the internet. Much as I aspired to, I’ve never actually learned from a scholar –which is why I can’t even begin to answer your question. What you’re basically asking is: what is a bida’h. The answer to that [i]can[/i] and [i]has[/i] filled up books. To answer that here would amount to reams of cut and paste pages off the net. My understanding is: Any act of worship that is done with the intention to gain Allaah’s pleasure, closeness or reward has to conform with the Prophet SAW’s sunnah and the understanding of the early Muslims. If it doesn’t …that’s where the scholars come in and clarify issues inshallah... PS I'm from the subcontinent too, but I honestly don't know anyone who feels they'll be rewarded for folding their prayer mat in a particular way or embracing thrice on Eid etc etc...Like others have pointed out it's more a habit or custom than an "act of worship" on their part..Wallaahu A'alam |
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| rkhan |
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| a_lina |
| 03/02/04 at 02:52:02 |
| [slm] I think I can answer 2 of those questions. [quote]Did you know that you can get married at 9th or 10th of Muharram even? If yes then would you dare do it?[/quote] I remember attending a wedding on 9th or 10th Muharram in Pakistan. And yes, I would dare do it. Though, I think it would be easier for those of us living in the west to do so with lesser opposition when compared to those living in the subcontinent. [quote]For those of you having roots in subcontinent: Folding ur prayer rug (top quarter.. side corner) after praying or when its spread there on the floor/carpet without anybody praying on it. Its not a sunnah, as far as i know its nothing, and some ppl still do it. Do we have someone on here who still does it? and may i ask why? [/quote] My grandmother use to tell my father to fold a part of his prayer mat when he wasn't praying on it and said that if he didn't...the Shaitan would start praying on it. She also use to say that if men pray bare-headed, the Shaitan prays with them. Many people of her generation had the same beliefs which were carried on to our generation, and sometimes, I still fold a part of my prayer mat out of habit . I don't know how these beliefs originated. But, Alhamdolillah, our family as well as many others around us are more religiously aware now so, old habits are dying away. [slm] :-) |
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| humble_muslim |
| 03/02/04 at 15:23:20 |
| AA Nomi, sounds like you're becoming a Wahabbi, Salafi, exztremist, fundamentalist, etc... Mashallah, good way to go. |
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| faith |
| 03/02/04 at 22:55:14 |
| [slm] like rkhan said, i dont know why i'm in the list either... ??? anyway, here's my answers to some of your Qs: 1) people get married on weekends - so that their guests can attend the wedding, so if 9 or 10 of muharram is on the weekend, then why not! actually, we should celebrate the 10th of muharram because our Prophet [saw] said that was the day Prophet Moses (alaihisalam) defeated the Pharoah, with Allah's will. Hence the reason for fasting on the 10th of Muharram. The Jews fasted on this day too, and to differentiate ourselves, we have to fast at least 2 days, ie. 9 & 10th. (sorry I cant quote which book in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim, but its there) 2) dont know 3) I'm not in the subcontinent, but some people fold prayer rugs to keep the place tidy, and i fold it to prevent my cats from sleeping on it. ;D 4) dont know 5) raising hands after prayer: the non-learned look to others in the masjid, and copy. the learned, either have been told by their shaykhs to do so, or don't do it, because their shayks provided proofs why they shouldnt do. Peace, :-) |
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| faith |
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| Nomi |
| 03/04/04 at 04:03:04 |
[slm] Jazakumullah everyone for ur replies, really appreciate them :). [i] [color=Black]Black[/color] = Question. [color=Brown]Brown[/color] = Ur Answer. [color=Blue]Blue[/color] = My take. [/i] [color=Black]Q: Is it bid'ah... is that bid'ah, etc[/color] -- Humble Muslim [color=Brown] Nomi, sounds like you're becoming a Wahabbi, Salafi, exztremist, fundamentalist, etc... Mashallah, good way to go. [/color] -- me [color=Blue]oops, i hope i dint offend anyone, especially not you bro Humayoun. And if you are not offended and just said it then it made me recall something. heh, when my bro first grew his beard my 'da'di ma' (grandma) asked him, "have you become a salafi?". I dunno why did she say that but that was quite an interesting remark. On a serious note, granted our salafi brethren are strict about bid'ahs which is all good, however, that doesn't imply that all others are ppl of bid'ah. Others can be as anti bid'ah too, no? [/color] [color=Black]Q: <asking ppl to respond> [/color] -- faith [color=Brown]like rkhan said, i dont know why i'm in the list either... [/color] -- rkhan [color=Brown] I felt kind of surprised to see my name up there…have I given the (wrong) impression that I have some knowledge or training in Islaamic studies? [/color] -- me [color=Blue]Sis rkhan, i asked for you input bcoz..... um..... bcoz...... ur a good biyani maker (lol). Nah! seriously, i just mentioned ur name coz i wanted inputs from everyone and whatever post i read recently the name of posters came to my mind and just typed them. Not to say that ur posts are pretty common, they are quite good mashaallah. Sis faith, sorry, typing ur name was slip of keyboard !!!! oops... kidding sis... :).... i'm told that some malaysian sisters are good at kung-fu so dont wanna mess with any even on the internet :) [/color] [color=Black]Q: Why is it that ALL the scholars use kufi or imama and it seems that wearing it is part of deen, because all of them wear it, and no one (common ppl) dares call it bid'ah. why? [/color] -- Mujahada [color=Brown]I believe that it's a sunna for men to cover their hair... as in wear something on their head. [/color] -- Abu_Hamza [color=Purple]Many scholars wear the imamah because of their love for the Prophet, knowing that he wore an imamah.[/color] [color=Brown]But it is not *sunnah* in the *legal* meaning of that word. It *is* sunnah, however, in the sense that this was part of the way that Rasulullah did things (just like his use of camels for travel, wearing of certain clothes, etc.) This means that there is no reward for wearing an imamah *in itself*,[/color] [color=Purple]but there would be reward if one does it because he wants to imitate the Prophet out of love.[/color] -- me [color=Blue] Right. So no one on here is calling it bid'ah, i agree. The scholars do it out of love of Prophet [saw] and as Abu_Hamza said that there is more thawaab in it if they do it 'out of the love of Rasool [saw]" so common ppl who do it due to the 'same' reason will inshaAllah also get thawaab. Now, no one on here said that scholars are making things harder for themselves, right, its quite okay with me. Hence, women who imitate Prophet [saw] wives and observe nikaab should also be not thought of as if they are making things tough for themselves and as Abu_Hamza said, as they are imitating the Prophet [saw] so there is inshaAllah more thawaab in them doing so. And ofcourse we all should be tolerant towards them as we are tolerant towards shaykhs for wearing kufis all the time out of love of Prophet [saw]. Not to say that anyone on here is intolerant. [/color] [color=Black]Q: Did you know that some ppl think that its bid'ah (if they do it as part of deen) to embrace 3 times on Eids as they believe 1 time is sunnah. If yes then did you ever try it?[/color] --Abu_Hamza [color=Brown]I think se7en answered this part. Basically if you believe that embracing 3 times is the *only* proper way to hug on Eid, and not doing so will deprive you from reward, then that is not correct and may fall under the category of bid'ah. However, I know that some people hug three times because it's an odd number, and there is a hadith which says Allah (awj) is odd (as opposed to even), and He likes things that are in odd numbers. I agree with you though. One (or two) big, long hug(s) brotherly hug is 10 times better than 3 quick hugs simply done as a formality. [/color] -- me [color=Blue]So its about neeyah, right? And we are asked to find 70 excuses for our brethren. We just can't jump on them by saying that, as bro ziauallah would say (in his unique way, to tell ppl not to call it bidah).. huh huh .. go away.. ur ppl of bid'ah!! I know nobody on here said it, i'm just sharing with you folks my view on it. Thats why i let them hug me three times although me and my bro hug only once. Its really interesting that how hug of your own brother is warmer than others, did anyone ever notice it? Like your friends also give you even tighter hugs on eid but its different with your brother! I so missed my brother's hug on this Eid but got the same old warmer one when he returned from Saudi. Sooo.. i'll not call anyone ppl of bid'ah unless and untill i'm sure that they are considering it something more rewardable by Allah. [/color] [color=Black]Q: Oh this one is interesting. For those of you who have been or are full time students of deen at some 'regular' university. How much was the duration of your 'islamic' degree? one year? 2,3, 4 years? (does the "days" thing ring some bells about any dawah group ?!) [/color] [color=Brown]<no replies>[/color] -- me [color=Blue]As we now understand what bid'ah really is, thanks to sis se7en's explanation. And considering the fact that we should think of 70 excuses for our brethren. Also taking into consideration that ppl go to islamic unis for learning 'and' unis have to manage things thats why they too divide it into semesters etc. So, when ppl go with some dawah groups for 'learning deen' (ppl learn many things, from duas, ayahs, to tajweed, to moral values, to understanding other religions and learning ways to do dawah work) and they have some schedules as to what type of course outline should be set. So, we must not call the 'days thingy' bid'ah, out of fear of Allah [swt]. Here i would also request other members to plz do ppl like me a favor and reply to this question whenever some member out of not-enough-knowledge, calls it bid'ah. jazakumullah. [/color] [color=Black]Q: Did you know that you can get married at 9th or 10th of Muharram even? If yes then can you dare do it? [/color] --Abu_Hamza [color=Brown]What's wrong with getting married on the 9th or 10th of Muharram? It is not part of our Deen to mourn for people's death years after the incident has happened. (In fact, it violates the command of the Prophet which says *not* to do so). Furthermore, the Prophet did not specify any day for marriage, nor did he prohibit people from marrying on any day(s). Therefore, one can marry on any day[/color] -- me [color=Blue]Actually i wont get married at these dates and would also ask my friends to not to! Reason? Well obviously we dont mourn neither we should but take this scenario into consideration then reply me. Lets talk about your next door neighbor who supposedly is a christain, someone in their family dies and tomorrow in the funeral. Would you arrange a party at your place on that day? Like Islaam doesn't forbid you to get married or arrange a get together at any specific date but islaam does ask you to be considerate to others. Imagine what big anti-dawah would it be! Now is our dawah only for non-muslims or for muslims too. Shi'ites are Muslims and no matter what ppl think of them (Note: i'm not implying that you think bad about them) but still we should do things that would make them come close to real islaam and not stuff that'll offend them. Granted mourning and beating/cutting yourself is v-bad, its what some shias do but then again, we should be considerate for the sake of peace. Like one of my best friends is a shia, we had dinner outside on 10th of Muharram. He actually visited 'me' (i'm bearded), we picked another friend and ate outside. By chance my sis's bestest friend is also a shia and i tutored both of them in their 11th/12th grade exams! Why should i be inconsiderate towards their belief, like i'm not thinking of mouring as something good, i'm just trying *not* to offend them by not getting married on those dates. So then, would they care about my telling them about salah and solidarity if i marry on dates that 'they' think as days of mourning. I think not and it would be big anti-dawah. As they say, "think globally and act locally". Even if we dont have any shia muslims around us, still we should not offend them as it'll only take us apart, more! [/color] Comments are welcome. [slm] Asim Zafar. ps: I'll correct my typos later, bear with me inshaAllah. |
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| Nomi |
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| humble_muslim |
| 03/04/04 at 14:01:05 |
| AA Nomi, I'm not offended! I was complimenting you! Without going into the details, I thinks it's very important for all muslims to try to try to find the "authentic" deen as much as they can. Since I've started doing dawah with Christians, this has become doubly important, as you end up comparing the history and the interpretation of the bible with that of the Quran and Hadith. |
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| Nomi |
| 03/07/04 at 00:47:38 |
| [slm] Thanks a bunch bro Humayoun. I was waiting for others to comment but not to be. There are some other 'flows' that i wanted to talk about. Like some ppl not praying at 12 night-time, about permissible time-span of maghrib salah (note: i wrote 'permissible' not 'preferred'), about taking step(s) (side ways or ahead) while "in" salah. And few others. I'm saving my comments on these as of now, for now i wanted to say that all of us do and can go with the wrong flow. We are weak thats why, and i'm the weakest. We see around us that how ppl defend/favor something when its happening all around and when ppl having influence are doing it. On the other hand we 'can' and do oppose stuff which has the same definition (of things already 'flowing') but is not 'that much' part of the flow. We saw it happening even in this very thread !!! I think it is but natural. [slm] comments? |
| 03/07/04 at 00:51:01 |
| Nomi |
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| superFOB |
| 03/14/04 at 03:26:27 |
| [quote author=Nomi link=board=madrasa;num=1077912806;start=0#7 date=03/01/04 at 22:45:16]Did you know that you can get married at 9th or 10th of Muharram even? If yes then would you dare do it?[/quote] There is a simple answer. I have, and many other people do too, a lot of shia friends and I would not want to offend them. How about that? [quote author=Nomi link=board=madrasa;num=1077912806;start=0#7 date=03/01/04 at 22:45:16]Why is it that ALL the scholars use kufi or imama and it seems that wearing it is part of deen, because all of them wear it, and no one (common ppl) dares call it bid'ah. why?[/quote] Its a continuous sunnah! Who in their right mind would object to that? [quote author=Nomi link=board=madrasa;num=1077912806;start=0#7 date=03/01/04 at 22:45:16]For those of you having roots in subcontinent: Folding ur prayer rug (top quarter.. side corner) after praying or when its spread there on the floor/carpet without anybody praying on it. Its not a sunnah, as far as i know its nothing, and some ppl still do it. Do we have someone on here who still does it? and may i ask why? Well i used to do it but not anymore![/quote] Heh, I STILL fold the prayer-rug. Why? Well, just to keep it clean and to give it the respect it deserves. It is all part of the adab. What do we do with our new clothes? Keep them clean, iron them, and store them in those special bags. Right? Why not the same care for the prayer rug? |
| 03/14/04 at 03:30:56 |
| superFOB |
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