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pakiprncess
04/30/04 at 16:51:43
[slm] long lost sisters in islam  :-)

just wondering what the general consensus on birth control is. i looked it up at islamqa.com, and got an answer im not sure i understand:

"A woman should not use birth control pills unless the following two conditions are met:

(1)      She should have a reason for that such as being sick and unable to bear a pregnancy every year, or being physically weak, or having other reasons why getting pregnant every year would be harmful for her.

(2)      Her husband should give his permission, because the husband has the right to have children. This must also be done in consultation with a doctor, to find out whether taking these pills will be harmful to her or not.

If these two conditions are met, then it is OK for her to use these pills, but that should not be on a permanent basis, i.e., she should not use the type of birth control pills that prevent pregnancy permanently, because this is preventing progeny. "

could one of the other reasons be that the wife is going to school and cant handle having a baby so soon? im just puzzled as how to interpret this  ???

jazakallah khair.
Re: birth control permissible?
sal
05/01/04 at 03:43:14
[quote]could one of the other reasons be that the wife is going to school and cant handle having a baby so soon? [/quote]
I dont think tso
05/01/04 at 03:44:30
sal
Re: birth control permissible?
jannah
05/01/04 at 04:32:26
[slm]

You should discuss this with a real scholar that knows you and your circumstances.  A cut and paste fatwa may or may not fit your situation. If you're too shy you can always get your husband to go ask right?

Re: birth control permissible?
Mossy
05/01/04 at 08:44:52
Salam,

I wouldn't say islamqa represents a general consensus, but hey.. ;)

Essentially, they work from two main principles. Firstly, lots of kids are good as we are told to go forth and multiply. Secondly, it is the right of the husband to have his children born when he desires. It is permissable to engage in family planning if he agrees, [url=http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=20597&dgn=4]see this fatwa[/url], part three. After all, it would be exhausting and detrimental to study and raise kids..

[url=http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=32479&dgn=4]Here is another fatwa[/url] on family planning, again the third point is the most pertinent - contraception is permissable after consultation with both spouses as long as it is a reversible/non permanent means (barrier, iud, pills).

[url=http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=587&dgn=4]This fatwa outlines the principles quite simply once more[/url].

It is also impermissable to do something that harms you however, so you should ask your doctor as to the effects of the pill - long term exposure can be detrimental. If so, utilise another means of contraception.

My view is that this is essentially an area for common sense and consultation between spouses. Education is a priority in order to give your kids the best chance possible and raise good strong lil muslims by giving them adequate attention. If your husband is reasonable, he will accede to this so as not to overburden you.

ws

Mossy
Re: birth control permissible?
pakiprncess
05/04/04 at 22:49:44
hmm, dunno how i missed those from the q&a site, but thanks for pointing them out to me... made it 1000x easier for me to approach my significant other about the situation :)

jazakallah khair.
Re: birth control permissible?
gift
05/13/04 at 05:14:47
[slm]

I had this question knocking around in my head since this thread started.  What if a couple have had 1 / 2 / 3 etc children and they don't actually want anymore children? what then?

[wlm]
Re: birth control permissible?
pakiprncess
05/14/04 at 16:09:21
attia,

here is an EXCELLENT document on precisely these concerns: http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/qa00000254.aspx  

i felt a lot better after having read that (recommended to me by an anon user)
Re: birth control permissible?
sal
05/15/04 at 15:44:13
[quote author=Attia link=board=sis;num=1083354703;start=0#5 date=05/13/04 at 05:14:47][slm]

I had this question knocking around in my head since this thread started.  What if a couple have had 1 / 2 / 3 etc children and they don't actually want anymore children? what then?

[/quote]
What is  the  reason they don’t want more  than  that ? for  health  reasons for the wife  for  instance ?  if so  it is  a good  excuse  other  than  that  I don’t think  it  is permissible  though  many couple  do  that



Re: birth control permissible?
resistance4ever
05/16/04 at 16:57:56
[slm]

i'm no scholar, but i think using contraception can be used even if no medical reason requires it.

also i dont know ANYWHERE in islaam where it says a woman must get pregnant every year. if this exist somewhere, can some please post me a link or hadith?

me and my wife to be have agreed not to have children for about 2 years. the reason for this is we want to travel the world, spend time together, alone without kids before settling down to have a family. thiers no medical reason why we can't have kids immediatly, its just a personal choice. and from all i have read, islaamically we are doing nothing wrong. of course you get the odd brother or sister who shouts "haraam" or "not from the sunnah" but having kids immediatly is not compulsory.

So sister, if you dont want to have children immediatly, than you dont have to. if you want an education and feel a baby would interfere in your studies, than try not to get pregnant, use contrceptives to avoid pregnancy, as long as they are temporary measures and not permanent.

[wlm]
Re: birth control permissible?
M.F.
05/17/04 at 05:56:15
[quote author=Salem link=board=sis;num=1083354703;start=0#7 date=05/15/04 at 15:44:13]
What is  the  reason they don’t want more  than  that ?

[/quote]

Cause she's afraid she'll lose her sanity if she has anymore kids.... ::)
cause they live in a really cramped space and can't fit anymore kids in there....
cause she's just plain worn out and tired from having to raise three kids...
cause there's no one to help her out families being spread all over the place and all...
lots of reasons I can think of
Re: birth control permissible?
gift
05/17/04 at 07:40:50
[slm]

Thanks pakiprncss for the link.

[quote author=Salem link=board=sis;num=1083354703;start=0#7 date=05/15/04 at 15:44:13]
What is  the  reason they don’t want more  than  that ? for  health  reasons for the wife  for  instance ?  if so  it is  a good  excuse  other  than  that  I don’t think  it  is permissible  though  many couple  do  that [/quote]

Salem, this is not a real situation, it was just a hypothetical question I was thinking about.
Re: birth control permissible?
Abu_Hamza
05/19/04 at 20:13:54
[slm]

Here is a book in which the author spends several pages talking about the issue of birth control - its various methods, and their legal status in Islam.  

http://store.yahoo.com/islamicbookstore-com/b6202.html

I'm still looking to see if there's an online version of this book.

Wassalamu alaikum
Re: birth control permissible?
humble_muslim
05/21/04 at 18:43:42
AA

Hmm, how about wife's ability to handle pregnancy, handle birth, and handle five years of putting your entire life in the hands of your baby/toddler?

To be really honest, no man (or even woman for that matter) can understand the potential diificulties of pregnancy and upbringing.  Yes, some women are GREAAAAT at it, but others really struggle.

Just my two cents.
NS
Re: birth control permissible?
pakiprncess
05/25/04 at 15:08:25
hmm, if i may please comment on your two cents :-[ , do you mean to say:

1. we should never have kids because we can never understand the weight of parenthood

or

2. we should never PLAN to have kids because we can never understand the weight of parenthood

now that ive written it out, i think two, but still... i think the main point of planning is in order to be as on top of things as possible.
Re: birth control permissible?
Kathy
05/26/04 at 09:28:16
[slm]

[quote]to be as on top ob things as possible[/quote]

:-[ ;) ;D [i]Every mother is quietly chuckling to herself right now... we always try, but soon we realize we never are! we just keep reminding ourselves 'this too shall pass'[/i]
Re: birth control permissible?
pakiprncess
05/27/04 at 11:52:55
that and pop a  [], huh ;)

seriously though, i dunno.. i went to my dr the other day and she was listing the various forms and telling me which are most effective and why i shouldnt take the less effective form because then i might be pregnant and freak out... and i remember thinking, well, whats so wrong if i do get pregnant, lady? itll be a blessing in disguise, im sure.

so im still considering not going on anything. its just that with such rapid life changes (graduation from university, moving out of the country, living with a new family, starting law school, adjusting to the presence of a new companion, etc), i was thinking i may want some time to myself and him before we set out for something else so life-changing, you know?


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