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Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
Faisal
06/06/04 at 08:12:25
Yow,yasser. Let me tell people that i m ur friend.See i agree wid ur comment that religions r made for follwing not for public show off.And i have also seen people like this  in the near environment.So all such people must stop telling tales about their character and should "JUST B PRACTICAL" .Man, i get so angry when people start calling themselves religious but aren't truly so.
So hope such ppl. understand and come to the right path rather then calling themselves to be on the right path.
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
yumna
06/06/04 at 09:06:32
U no wat mayb who u think is posing to b religious is not posing !! may b she is wat she is anyway how would u no wats in her heart only He knows wats in every1s heart quran says “ALLAH knows and you know not”..and u have no rite to comment on ppl attitude in such harsh manners u’ve hurt her bad this time ..REAL BAD ! ..and wat u said about immodesty mostly coming from women …how dare u say that?? Have u got anyauthentic proof on that ..?? really if u have some problem with that girl you should talk to her straight away instead on posting such stuff on public posts …and if u didn’t know that girl has never done anything bad to u or been mean to u or even abused u then y r u making her life miserable …!!!!!!!
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
Amna
06/06/04 at 13:17:10
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     I do not agree with u when u say that modesty is only for women.Your mother and sisters are also women. Have u ever thought something like this for them???Haven't you read about this in Islamiyat that Modesty is prescribed for both men and women. By mentioning "SHE" again and again I think u r talking about a particular person and u have no right to comment on anyone's character especially about someone in our class.I don't think she has ever been rude 2 u or has done someting bad 2 u. How can u b so sure how she is?I think u must have read this hadith
"Modesty is a part of faith"
U have mentioned that modesty is to be followed as it is a part of religion.Doing good to others is also a part of Islam and modesty. So by hurting someone I don't think u are following your religion.And next time please do think for sometime before u write something like this on public posts.
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
theOriginal
06/06/04 at 13:54:48
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SubhanAllah...do you guys all know eachother or something?  

Umm..I don't think anyone needs to prove to any other human that he or she is modest, it's all about niyyah, and it's something only Allah ta'Ala can measure.  And actually, you shouldn't even ask if someone has "reformed" or not, it's not really relevant to your life.

And I believe modesty was a command for all humans, men and women alike, don't you agree, bro yasser?

Wasalaam.

~A very unwise, slightly older than 21, "she".
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
Faisal
06/06/04 at 15:01:41
Know what ,i didn't mention anybody's name.Nor did i say that modesty to be followed by females only.Understand!I myself say that i m not very modest.But what me and yasser aimed at was to make it clear that we(not only females) should do what we say.Is it clear.
And u(yumna and amna) went 4 direct fight.Huh.'SUCH NARROW-MINDED THINKING'
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
Yasser
06/07/04 at 10:15:09
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See, my purpose was not to hurt. and i think that criticism is not bad. I knew that the person may read this article, and try to improve herself.
See i don't say that modest is only for women. it is ordered for both men and women to lower their gaze.

it's not only my point of view about that person but many others also say about that person....

well! ok i also have mother and sisters. i know what you're trying to tell Amna. If they are wrong i may tell them and i hope they are not like others.
Who are you? You're like my sisters. That means that if I criticize one, then the person feels bad.

Well I never said that i am really modest but i know what's modesty. If i say it then you will see a big change in me.

And INSHALLAH i'm going to change someday.(or mayb 2morrow) INSHALLAH!
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
yumna
06/07/04 at 11:20:11
[quote]Faisal said;
Know what ,i didn't mention anybody's name.Nor did i say that modesty to be followed by females only.Understand!I myself say that i m not very modest.But what me and yasser aimed at was to make it clear that we(not only females) should do what we say.Is it clear.
And u(yumna and amna) went 4 direct fight.Huh.'SUCH NARROW-MINDED THINKING' [/quote]....i didn't say anything to u i said that 2 yasser
[quote]Yasser said; people like 21[/quote]....o not generalizing ..i c then wats that?  
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
Faisal
06/07/04 at 13:01:55
Yaaakhi , finish all this .Is this the topic to start a fight on.But the main thing is lets see how yasser changes his attitude tomorrow. ;-)
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
Mossy
06/07/04 at 13:31:15
What on earth is this thread about?

If someone claims to be religious but does deeds for their own glory/to impress others instead of pleasing Allah (swt), ie with incorrect niyyah, this is riya (simulation) as opposed to ikhlas (sincerity) - it is considered minor shirk by most (I think).

If a person is trying to reform from previous faults, it should be actively encouraged and supported. Whether this person's intention is pure or to merely impress others is not for us to judge, but for Allah (swt) alone to judge come Qiyamat. We do not expose the faults of our fellow muslims for this reason, but simply try to help them in a polite manner when possible.

ws

Mossy
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
Amna
06/07/04 at 13:57:45
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I never wanted to fight on this matter. The thing that made me a little harsh was when Yasser mentioned about some girl from our class.
Re: People who claim but it's (False Modesty)
yumna
06/08/04 at 08:09:12
[slm] :D for those on board who didn't understand a thing in this tread ..don't bother it was just a skool argument yes v all know each other v r are class mates me amna yasser faisal ..so i guess that concludes it peace to all :-)


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