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| Lessons: in defence of the rich and the princes |
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| timbuktu |
| 06/29/04 at 11:05:59 |
| [slm] i hope i haven't posted this earlier :) at eight years of age, I was old enough to read the news and draw lessons. I read in a local Newspaper (The daily Jang, largest circulation paper in Karachi, and in Pakistan) two news items, one above the other: The top one: A 45 year old young Italian prince was injured in a racing accident in the Grand Prix near Milano, Italy. below this was the other item: A 35 year old middle-aged man was killed when a bus crushed him when he tried getting on the bus in Karachi. This set me thinking, and I drew some conclusions from this. If you are Italian, or European, or from the world that rules over the others, at 45 years of age you are still young. You are more likely to be a prince, taking part in the Grand Prix, and if you are involved in a car accident, you are only likely to be injured, not killed. Perchance you belong to an underdeveloped country like Pakistan, at 35 you will be middle-aged, you are likely to be poor, your travel will be by bus, and in an accident you can safely say goodbye to life. what lessons would you have drawn? ________________ i have corrected the above. It should be 35, not 40 year old middle-aged man |
| 07/02/04 at 23:09:51 |
| timbuktu |
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| M.F. |
| 06/29/04 at 13:41:38 |
| [slm] One thing I can see is that headline-wise, a young Italian prince getting injured is more important than a middle aged Pakistani who got killed, as the first headline is above the second one. |
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| Trustworthy |
| 06/29/04 at 23:31:50 |
| [slm]... What does an Italian prince have to do with Pakistan? I could really care less about the rich and spoiled....really I could give a DANG! May Allah have mercy on the 35 year old Paki YOUNG man in his grave, ameen. I wouldn't pick up the paper if the headline was about a Prince from Italy who injured his leg at his leisure time. He's the prince, doesn't he have anything else better to do like change the world? Really! Ma-assalaamah.... |
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| Halima |
| 06/30/04 at 01:52:09 |
| I have developed Sis Trustworthy's attitude: I don't read news to do with the Rich, the Famous, the Royals, etc., etc., etc., these days. They don't add any value to my knowledge. Neither do they contibute anything significant to the world except indulge their whims. So for them, even a eighty year old is still young. You will hear: she was ONLY 80 years old or 100. And they say his or her life was cut short, it was untimely death. When was death ever timely? May Allah rest the Muslim brother's soul in Jannatul Firdowsa, Ameen. Halima ___________________________________________________________________ I saw a man in Paradise for a deed as simple as cutting down a tree that stood in the middle of a road, causing wayfarers much distress. -The Prophet Muhammad, as reported by Ibn Umar I seek refuge in Allah from knowledge that brings no wisdom, from a heart that lacks kindness, from desires that bring discontent, and from supplications that go unanswered. -The Prophet Muhammad, as reported by Abu Hurairah Lord! I seek refuge in You from adversities, weaknesses, indolence, cowardice, avarice, indebtedness, and being victimized by the populace. -The Prophet Muhammad, as reported by Anas bin Malik |
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| Milaya |
| 06/30/04 at 04:56:59 |
| [slm] Sigh! media! >:( ....this is how they play their job. any little tiny things of the Rich'nFamous get exposed in a gaudy way |
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| Kathy |
| 06/30/04 at 06:35:02 |
| [slm] [quote]I have developed Sis Trustworthy's attitude: I don't read news to do with the Rich, the Famous, the Royals, etc., etc., etc., these days. [/quote] Me too. Sometimes I like to look, but am afraid I will long for 'stuff' I do not need. One thing that always goes thru my mind... is how much do they really give to charity? |
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| Medo |
| 06/30/04 at 12:44:06 |
| [slm] The rich and famous. I laugh. What will they take with them to their grave? Not so rich and famous now. [wlm] ;-) |
| in defence of the rich and the princes |
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| timbuktu |
| 07/02/04 at 20:53:05 |
| [slm] I enjoyed the responses. In my view we should try to be balanced, lest we are counted among the transgressors Being rich isn't wrong in itself. The only disadvantage is that one will have that much more to answer for, but that goes for power, for being talkative, for having scholarship and not using it, etc. If one is rich through permitted means, if one meets all one's obligations (Zakat, looking after relatives and neighbors etc.) then being rich can be advantageous. One can contribute more materially to the Sociey, one can create employment. The third Caliph Uthmaan was a very rich man. That did not disqualify him from being included in the 3shrae Mubashshira, being given in marriage the hands of two of the proiphet (saw)'s daughters, one after the other, etc. Thus was because his wealth was used for the Ummah. I have heard of a Kuwaiti prince who was martyred in the Jihad against the Soviets in Afghanistan I heard of another heir to a substantial fortune from Karachi who was martyred in Kashmir a few years ago. These are just examples. There are other rich people making the supreme sacrifice. There are rich people who contribute to the welfare of the poor, to dawah, to the cause of education, job creation, Jihad, etc. Hakim Muhammad Saeed built a multi-million dollar empire in Tibb (herbal medicine), and put iot all in a Trust which runs schools, welfare projects and a University, providing services and employment. Edhi Welfare Trust in Pakistan is the largest Welfare organisation in the world. It is run entirely on donations, much of which comes from Edhi's Memon business (and rich) community. so being rich is not a disqualification by itself ;) I am unhappy about the trillions of dollars the Saudis and gulf emirs have amassed and transferred to the West, but this is a fact that mosques, Islamic literature, websites, and the resulting exposure of the West's population on this large scale are possible because of funds from these riches. The privaletly arranged and funded hospitality extended to the pilgrims during Ramadan is amazing, I am told. The rich of Mecca, and Medina do it. all rich people are not friends of the Devil :) Let's give them their due. wa assalam |
| 07/03/04 at 10:16:24 |
| timbuktu |
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| Milaya |
| 07/05/04 at 00:46:02 |
| [slm] umm I remember one hadith (correct me if it's wrong) Allah swt hates the Rich who never give charity, but hates more the Poor who never give charity |
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