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| jannah |
| 08/17/04 at 14:00:30 |
| [wlm] the opinion that photographs not being allowed is not a majority one. so if anyone wants to post photos it's fine. if you don't want to that's fine too. i'm removing the fatwa because this is not a fatwa site jazakamuallahu khairan |
| 08/19/04 at 22:51:28 |
| jannah |
| Re: Some Cool Photos from Around the World |
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| Nisa |
| 08/17/04 at 21:53:20 |
| [slm] [quote] the opinion that photographs not being allowed is not a majority one [/quote] Sister, I've been informed by some of the most respected scholars of our time that it [i]is[/i] indeed the majority opinion among the 'ulema. What do you base your above statement on? [wlm] :-) P.S. Ukthi if you'd like to PM me if this kind of dialogue is not acceptable on the boards, then please do inshaAllah so that we may clarify matters in private. |
| 08/17/04 at 21:56:21 |
| Nisa |
| Re: Photography, etc |
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| jannah |
| 08/17/04 at 23:53:46 |
| [wlm] I really don't want to argue the points on it and start pasting counter-fatwas etc. Suffice it to say, every scholar I have asked personally and read about (w/the exception of sh munajjid and perhaps sh albaani) believe photography is fine within some Islamic limitations. I think the various fatwas on this issue are known. The board isn't really the right place to impress fatwas on others. (especially on an issue where there is a difference of opinion.) I think none of us on the board should insist on making something "haram" for everyone else when there is a difference of opinion on an issue. If you don't partake in it it's fine, but there's no need to try to force everyone else to abide by one's own beliefs. |
| Re: Photography, etc |
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| timbuktu |
| 08/18/04 at 01:04:44 |
| [slm] sis Kathy I go half-half. I mean, I have not banned photographs from my home, they are kept in albums, but pictures of animate objects are not allowed on our walls. However, a far worse thing exists, which is glass statuettes of swans and things like that which my wife thinks beautify our drawing room. My father's picture was up on the wall, and I noticed as if the eyes in the picture moved. I noticed it several times, and I am not a sentimental or imaginative type. So, I checked, and it turns out that jinns can hide in pictures etc. SO, I removed the pic from the wall. |
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| Nisa |
| 08/18/04 at 10:23:15 |
| [slm] Allah forbid if I were to deem something as haraam. Only recently have I researched this issue in detail which prompted me to seek advice from shayook. The mufti at ask-imam.com agrees with Shaykh Munajjid (which isn't often!)...and the shayook I have approached have said the same thing (Shaykh Khalid Yasin, Shaykh Yasir Qadi). I didn't mean to open a can of worms...I just thought that when there is a grey area, and difference of opinion does occur, then it would be better to avoid the issue at hand altogether. Anyhow...Allah swt knows best. [wlm] :-) |
| Re: Photography, etc |
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| Nisa |
| 08/18/04 at 11:07:38 |
| [slm] Also, I have often wondered for sisters taking pictures without hijaab (which I have done myself in the past), wearing make-up etc. - when you go to develop the pictures, isn't that allowing a non-mahram to see you when otherwise they wouldn't? Just a thought. [wlm] |
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| nida |
| 08/18/04 at 13:45:45 |
| [wlm] I don't why there are so many opinions for something CLEARLY stated in the hadith. ??? |
| Re: Photography, etc |
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| jannah |
| 08/18/04 at 16:18:41 |
| [wlm] most issues are not that "clear", especially in cases where what is under question did not exist at the time of the prophet saw. there are multiple complex things to consider, such as other hadith, other quran, juristic opinions, the circumstances and asbab behind something, lexicology, morphology, hadith status, etc etc. this is a great book that explores the issues in a juristic light. http://www.youngmuslims.ca/online_library/books/ethics_of_disagreement_in_islam/ The Ethics of Disagreement in Islam by Taha Jabir al `Alwani Especially check out chapter 7 on Chapter Seven: Reasons for Differences there's also a great book by Qaradawi that goes through this stuff too hope that helps, wsalaam |
| 08/18/04 at 16:27:52 |
| jannah |
| Re: Photography, etc |
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| Saam |
| 08/18/04 at 16:32:28 |
| [slm] From what I understand, the difference of opinion is whether or not photographs of animate objects (which did not exist in our Prophet's time [saw]) come under the same ruling as pictures of animate objects. Some scholars say they do. While others say that since it is not us creating an image, but rather capturing light from an image created by Allah, this is not rivaling Allah's creation. One scholar (maybe Shaykh Uthaymeen, but I could be mistaken) drew the analogy of a photograph to a mirror. He said both the photograph and mirror are different from pictures in that they are simply reflected light. From what I have understood, when it comes to man-made paintings, drawings, etc of animate objects, the scholars are pretty much in agreement that these are just like the images the prophet (SAWS) mentioned in the hadith. Then again, what do I know. Just as a disclaimer, I am not saying anything about the halalness or haraamness of anything. Just sharing what I have understood about this debate. Wassalaam, Saam ;-) |
| Re: Unauthorised Split... |
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| bhaloo |
| 08/19/04 at 20:31:37 |
| [slm] There are different legitimate views held by the scholars on this matter. And pretty much all of them have been covered in this thread, with the exception of the daleel (proof). The book that Jannah was referring to was Dr. Qaradawi's Halaal and Haraam book (it has a good discussion), and the view held by Sheikh Munajjidd can be seen on his http://www.islam-qa.com site. This should not be a cause for anger or hatred amongst Muslims. We should respect different scholarly viewpoints. I'm going to lock this thread. |
| 08/19/04 at 20:32:08 |
| bhaloo |
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