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| imaan |
| 08/27/04 at 07:44:18 |
| [slm] I hope the brothers and sisters on the board can help me. Im soon to get engaged inshallah, and have had confirmed that aswell as gold rings, platinum and titanium rings are haram. The only ring permitted is a silver one, that too has to be with only a single stone and under 10g of weight. My dilemma is this: i cant seem to find something special enough in silver...! they all look really bulky and deffo not engagement ring type- can anyone recommend any websites or shops (UK) PLEASE...???? Thankyou. [wlm] |
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| resistance4ever |
| 08/27/04 at 09:28:24 |
| [slm] I know that gold is haramm for men, not for women though. But Titanuim and platinum? why are these haraam? On what grounds? You can get a lot of nice rings in silver. try www.lxdirect.com this is where i bought my wife her wedding ring from. Also, what about white gold? Is white gold haraam? Wasalaam M p.s. i have read a lot of bizzarre "fatwas" from scholars about why certain things are haraam or disliked, one being gold does not look very manly! thats not really a good reason to make something haraam! another thing is some say its haraam for a man to hold his wifes hand in public, the reason being? its a sign of weakness! Is THIS it?! my point is scholars dont take what you read as gospel, as often scholars give rulings which are influenced by their backgrounds, culture and personal views on whatever subject. pps, i've heard silver is also haraam, according to a book i recently read. |
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| Barr |
| 08/27/04 at 11:28:34 |
| [wlm] Afwan, I don't wanna start something fiqhi - but something caught my eye. As far as I know, platinum is an element, titamium is an element and gold is an element - hence, they are not the same in their composition. Since men are not allowed to wear gold jewellery only, it puzzles me how a conclusion is reached that platinum and titanium are prohibited too? Maybe I missed something? Allahua'lam === Ooops, I didn't realise resistance posted smt on the same issue b4 me. |
| 08/27/04 at 11:32:09 |
| Barr |
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| jannah |
| 08/27/04 at 21:57:06 |
| [wlm] for bros, u could find nice silver thin rings.. some more ornate than others (but they look kinda girly to me) so a nice plain silver band is a pretty nice thing... masculine and simple, they are not expensive tho, so if ur looking for something more special as a gift.. go for a nice watch! there are titanium bands but they are not really nice.. white gold i believe is haram for men as is yellow gold or pink gold etc.. |
| 08/27/04 at 21:58:05 |
| jannah |
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| Nisa |
| 08/28/04 at 08:42:42 |
| [slm] dear sis Mubrook! May Allah swt join you together in peace and happiness, Ameen. The ruling on men wearing gold, platinum or titanium, is said to be for reasons of extravagance. Jewellery is for women, and we are told not to imitate men and vice versa. wAllahu a'lam. Sis, don't laugh, but they have some half-decent ones in Argos of all places. I don't think something has to be very expensive to look nice. Let us know if you find any other places! [wlm] |
| 08/28/04 at 18:43:43 |
| Nisa |
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| timbuktu |
| 08/28/04 at 13:15:39 |
| [slm] [quote]The ruling on men wearing gold, platinum or titanium, is for reasons of extravagance.[/quote] gold I know is Haraam, but because of extravagance? and platinum and titanium as well? I had thought these were halal. where is the Fatwa regarding these? would gold be halal in the Gold Coast, or wherever gold is easily mined? I guesss you could add "showing off" as a reason for haram-ness, but this is fiqh, and I am not learned. |
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| jannah |
| 08/28/04 at 16:15:05 |
| [color=red][slm] Jazakallah khair for pointing out the issues but let's please avoid posting fatwas and debating the halal and haram of issues. [/color] |
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| Zara |
| 08/28/04 at 16:43:26 |
| [wlm] Mabrook! I got engaged 12 July 2004. I promised to buy him a nice silver one from uk, providing he doesn't wear gold (I don't know about other cultures but a pakistani's go OTT about gold ;) ) Khair insha'allah he will never wear gold during my lifetime. [slm] |
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| Nisa |
| 08/28/04 at 18:47:18 |
| [quote author=jannah link=board=bro;num=1093603459;start=0#6 date=08/28/04 at 16:15:05][color=red][slm] Jazakallah khair for pointing out the issues but let's please avoid posting fatwas and debating the halal and haram of issues. [/color][/quote] [slm] Allah forbid if I were to instigate a discussion on the haraam and halal of things ??? I've altered my post....note the Allahu a'lam at the end. With all issues related to fiqh, ask a scholar! Br Timbuktu...platinum could be seen as extravangance as it is even more costly than gold! [wlm] |
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| imaan |
| 09/01/04 at 09:55:07 |
| [slm] Mashallah, this board is the place to be, i knew i could rely on you lot to give me a good idea. Congrats to sis zara on her engagement earlier this year. Alhamdulillah ive managed to find a nice silver one, its plain silver with a small stone in it. I gave Argos a thought...but then changed my mind..;) I never knew buying a simple ring could be such a mission! oh well ive only got the wedding to deal with now!!!!! your prayers and support will be much needed over the next few months- so watch this space... [wlm] |
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| resistance4ever |
| 09/02/04 at 05:25:35 |
| [slm] If you wanna add that special personal touch to the ring, have it engraved with both your names on the inside. it looks nice when you take it off and have a look at it. Wasalaam |
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| MIT |
| 09/03/04 at 05:28:36 |
| assalaamu alaikum I asked my shaikh about the prohibition of gold for men and he mentioned that *perhaps* one of the reasons behind the prohibition is that it makes men resemble women. And i can well believe that a scholar might have used the evidence of extravagance to form a ruling on the prohibition of titanium/platinum. You see, with some rulings there is not an explicit reason given by Allah as to the wisdom behind it. So essentially we follow the ruling because Allah has ordered us with it. However, a scholar may try to deduce the reason behind it based on his knowledge of the principles of sharee'ah. And if Allah wills he will be guided to the correct understanding. |
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| dina |
| 09/15/04 at 09:50:24 |
| [wlm] i think its great when two peole have entered an agreement into a mariage contract. what i dont understand is why theres such a fuss about exchanging rings, for both sisters and brothers invloved why do we need rings, isnt annoucement of engagement/marriage enough anyway this is my personal opinion [wlm] |
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