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| Hijaab...is it really? |
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| Anonymous |
| 09/09/04 at 01:44:16 |
| Assalamalikum, Ok people I want your opinion on this.This new thing has come up, or I have been noticing this since the past coupla months.Girls with hijaab are wearing theirs....umm...differenty. I don't like it. They first cover their hair and then with the two "tails" that are hanging down, they tie it at the back.It is so ridiculous cuz it shows their neck, chest, back, nape, etc. I mean it takes out the meaning of COVERING, DARN IT! and PLUS, new fashion! chandelier earring! so now you can show your earrings with this hijab.cool, huh?! NOT! so should i approach these girls...??(some even my close friends!) HOW? what should i say? please help me. what do u think of this way of wearing the hijab? |
| Re: Hijaab...is it really? |
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| Kathy |
| 09/09/04 at 08:11:53 |
| Wa alaykum as salaam wa rhamatullah wa barakatu. [quote author=Anonymous link=board=sis;num=1094705056;start=0#0 date=09/09/04 at 01:44:16]Assalamalikum, Girls with hijaab are wearing theirs....umm...differenty. They first cover their hair and then with the two "tails" that are hanging down, they tie it at the back [/quote] What is the definition of hijab? Think about it. If a woman is dressed then it really doesn't matter where her scarf tails are. For example: her chest is covered by at least two layers of clothing. Her undergarments, her top and most likely her jilbab. Is there really a need to put another layer , scarf tails over that? [quote]it shows their neck, chest, back, nape, etc. and PLUS, new fashion! chandelier earring! so now you can show your earrings with this hijab.cool, huh?! [/quote] Personally, I do wear my hijab, pinned in front and tails pinned in front and am not in favor of the "Mickey Mouse" way of styling the scarf, for the same reasons you posted. However, in the begginning stages of wearing a scarf, this way was most comfortable for me as I gradually grew into wearing the scarf properly. Perhaps these sisters are working their way into a scarf comfortableness too. I think it is a rare sis that doesn't know the rule 'show the hands and feet only' Unless it is a sis who is a revert. I have also noticed a lot of African American Sis's doing it also. |
| Re: Hijaab...is it really? |
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| lucid9 |
| 09/09/04 at 11:03:57 |
| [slm] sorry for being brain dead...but at least those sisters wear a hijab. i mean folks can moan and groan about the absurd differences between a backwards baseball cap hijab and the more proper ones...but there is still a world of difference between the baseball cap variety and nothing at all... i mean at some point people should appreciate it whenever a muslim sister takes the road of modesty (even if it is not complete) instead of the road of short skirts and model wannabes...etc.... i have sisters and i know its very hard to take the first road...and anyone who does so in the west and in today's climate...well bravo to them... But what often happens is the more islamically advanced sisters look down at such flawed sisters...when they should support them...and boy can some of the superislamic sisters be harsh sometimes!! i mean there are two ways to look at it. for example when you see a sister in hijab but with her bare midriff on display (yes it happens) or when you see a hijabi smooching with her boyfriend in public (again, yes it happens)...you might want to barf. its like...hello!?...hello?!...anybody home upstairs?! what does a hijab mean??!! But as the cliche goes, instead of looking at the glass as half empty...you should look at as half full. at least such sisters are practicing something...and dude... something is better than nothing...A LOT BETTER THAN NOTHING...and nice kindhearted sisters can then work on such sisters to better their islam... ok, now i'll shut up... |
| Re: Hijaab...is it really? |
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| Asia |
| 09/14/04 at 04:31:13 |
| Hyper- Afew things here, As I see it (>_< only my opinion!) a Muslim girl/woman wearing no hijab is a lot more merciful than one making a mockery of it, and baring all other bits and bobs. A few months ago, I considered wearing a *nikab* (face cover, eyes showing only) (if you knew that already, accept my apologies ~__^) to university, but my mother took me aside and told me that if I were to wear it, I could not take it off again, for fear of fitnah. Now, what does that mean? that means, that ( I live in the UK by the way) the disbelievers will be surprised when I wear it, and smug when if I take it off, as though I realised that this was *wrong* Now, with the girls in question (your question anonymous o.o) it is a huge fitnah and gives a really false view of Islm to those non-muslims who are now more curious than ever about Islam. One more thing ( I will wrap this up in a sec honest! ^^) we are obliged to advise those around us when we see them wrong others or themselves Allah says in Surat Al-Asr to what the translation is: (third Aya) "Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy" I say you approach those girls with gentleness and put down your points in a clear inoffensive manner, they may just be ignorant of the full truth of Hijab .. and Inshaallah you will be rewarded for that by Allah. |
| Re: Hijaab...is it really? |
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| jannah |
| 09/14/04 at 23:34:41 |
| [wlm] I always agree with hyper on this issue. I think people are obsessed with hijab... and granted it's a fard but so are many other things.. let's put it in perspective.. i mean for example going to jumah is fard for guys but you don't see people examining brother's piety and islamicty by that. Anyways point taken that hijab is much more than covering your hair. Here's an amrkhaled cartoon thats pretty good on this point... |
| http://www.jannah.org/board/attachments/muhajibah.jpeg |
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| Re: Hijaab...is it really? |
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| Nabila |
| 09/15/04 at 07:38:38 |
| [slm] I'm with hyper & jannah on this one. Alot of people sound so judgemental about girls that choose not to veil, and I think it is short sighted to focus on this issue. I have seen girls who wore a hijaab with tight clothes and went to pubs with their boyfriends. Maybe she comes from a very secular family and the implementation of Quran is not considered important within her family group. Maybe she hasn't been subjected to various 'cultural' interpretations of Islam that confused her. I think its harsh and unfair to think these girls are deliberatly 'making a mockery of hijaab' - they could simply be struggling to implement the Quran to the best of their knowledge in a very difficult environment. There are so many plausable reasons, and I dont think its right or beneficial to get all judgemental about it, and call those girls a fitnah. /I say you approach those girls with gentleness and put down your points in a clear inoffensive manner, they may just be ignorant of the full truth of Hijab .. and Inshaallah you will be rewarded for that by Allah./ I don't think thats a very good idea - these girls probably get well meant naseeha all the time, and to be honest, in this day and age, most people don't like to be told they're wrong. :D I seriously think you should carefully consider to whom you are giving naseeha, and the manner in which you do it; otherwise it can do more harm than good. I firmly believe the best way to lead is always by example - instead of giving them naseeha, if you made friends with them for example, they might learn to figure it out themselves if they want, through observing you, rather than 'having it shoved down their throats' as sometimes naseeha can come across as being very aggressive, intrusive and catty. Also, I think its a bit unfair to think that 'disbelievers' will somehow enjoy seeing you take your niqaab on and off. Alot of the sisters I know of that struggle with clothing sometimes go through periods of time when they wear hijaab and when they don't. A friend of mine who did this received no comments whatsoever while she was attempting to practise the deen. I'm not sayin that you havent picked the best decision for yourself, and I can certainly see how some people may think about you taking the niqaab off in that way, but I really think most people just dont care :) Right, enough sermonising, I'm off. ma asalaamah and take care |
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| Asia |
| 09/15/04 at 08:46:18 |
| mhm ... Ok, you guys gave a lot of food for thought. But, by no means do I speak with the intention of looking DOwn on such girls, Astaghfero Allah >_< And naseeha need not be of the offensive dry nature. Here in university sometimes, I see and speak to the *bared-midriff hijabs* gals, but I see it as a duty to speak to them, joke with them and befriend them, and we'll be asked by Allah later about whether we DId do anything/say anything as is our duty or just ignored the situation and brushed it off. If they do NOt know or are not sure of the boundaries of the Hijab .. why not inform them? I don't see that as judgemental or looking down on the girls in question. It's worked many- a - time for me. As for not saying anything because no one likes to be told they're wrong .. that is too general and isn't really an excuse. If that was the case, naseeha is out of the question for like .. %90 of the population ;) Also, It's not a case of the disbelievers *enjoying* seeing me take the nikab or Hijab off, but, for people who have only a very shallow and biased view of Islam, you'll feed any wrong views they MAY have.. or thats how the sheikh explained it to my mum >_> |
| Re: Hijaab...is it really? |
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| Anonymous |
| 10/03/04 at 14:38:59 |
| salamalaikum, thank you for all the replies. And no, I am not talking about girls who are "beginners" in wearing hijaab.They are used to it. I am talking about girls who have worn hijaab since years. So, they just cover their heads and not their neck, etc. I feel like saying, hey, why don't you just wear a baseball cap?! Also, can someone explain the picture that jannah posted?i don't understand the arabic words.Jazakallah khair. |
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| Khariya |
| 10/05/04 at 20:01:23 |
| [slm] In response to anoymous's question. ALot of sisters don't know how to wear hijab properly, it's not their fault many times they are only copying their mother or friends. in fact alot of muslims don't read islamic books, why? cause their born muslim they memorized some hadiths, can read the Quran in arabic, they know all about islam, so theres no need to read a book or article about the hijab , they know all there is to know, in there words " thats for the converts". I'm not exaggerating. I wasn't aware of this until I analyzed the statements of some of my friends and actually realized the reasons why they inproperly do stuff. Many times their just ignorant not rebellious. |
| Re: Hijaab...is it really? |
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| Muslimah08 |
| 10/16/04 at 13:51:53 |
| [slm] I kind of wear my hijaab..like that but...nothing is showing . First i do it normally cilpped bythe neck....then i take the two tails and tie the behind my back.....I hards to explain but nothin shows and i always wear underclothes under my Jilbab. :) [wlm] |
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