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Saam |
09/25/04 at 23:01:28 |
[slm] A few brothers and I were sitting and talking with each other, and we came upon a most distressing (yet not completely surprising) conclusion. Of all the Muslims you know in your community, how many of them are doctors? I can't speak for the whole of the US Muslims, but I can say that in the few communities I've been a part of, Muslim doctors are usually the most represented of all professions. In fact, in some communities it most likely reaches even half of the population. But then the question arises... Why don't we see any Muslim hospitals??! ??? :o There are tons of Christian hospitals and even Jewish hospitals, but I haven't seen one Muslim hospital in spite of the vast number of Muslim doctors I know. I mean I know there are even such organizations for Muslim medical professionals in America, but what are we doing with these organizations? Seeing us in this situation really saddenned me, but also caused me to want to do something about it. I just amn't really sure where to start. Do any of you know of any Muslim hospitals or maybe plans to build one in the near future? I think this is a kind of community building service that our Ummah needs; Muslims in America need a place to go for halal Islamic medical services. It seems that we need a lot of work on our infrastructure if we are really to impact our society; I think, inshaAllah, this would be a way to build our infrastructure. May Allah help the Muslims to be successful. Aameen. Wassalaam, Saam |
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Maliha |
09/26/04 at 09:14:46 |
[slm] What makes one medical service halal and Islamic and another haram and unislamic ??? Sorry just curious... With the many many doctors in place, what we really need is more Free clinics for the underprivileged in our communities. There are 45? million or more Americans (including Muslims) that don't have health insurance and yet are working full time. I think the Ummah clinic in LA, is an amazing model to work with. We had one in our area, that pretty much had to close for lack of "resources". I was soo distressed, considering our community (across the board) is really well off, and there are many doctors around. Offering services to the poor, regardless of their religious affiliation, should be the trademark of our community. Inshaallah one of these days... [wlm] |
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Saam |
09/26/04 at 16:18:14 |
[slm] [quote author=Nur_al_Layl link=board=madrasa;num=1096164089;start=0#1 date=09/26/04 at 09:14:46] [slm] What makes one medical service halal and Islamic and another haram and unislamic ??? Sorry just curious... [/quote] Allahu ta'ala 'alam. I should've picked a better choice of words. For certain, Muslims would prefer to be seen by a Muslim doctor that would understand their situation and needs much better. Also, with non-Muslim doctors, there are sometimes unavoidable issues of being seen by a doctor of the opposite sex... ususally it is not a problem though. If we were to offer a charitable medical service to the poor, we would still need to organize ourselves in some way (for example, hospitals) to be able to do so. I agree though. Our ummah really needs Muslim charities, especially in America. One brother put it to me this way: When the hurricanes in Florida occurred, imagine if there could be a Muslim charity there to offer help. They would not even have to do more than just pray in congregation when the time for prayer comes to give da'wah to the people they are helping. Imagine just what kind of an impact that would make, and what an amazing da'wah effort that could be. Of course, I think we would need to be there for our own ummah first, because certainly there are many Muslims that need the help just as much, and they have the right to receive our help before others. I suppose our ummah would need to make a dual effort towards helping our own and reaching out to others. Wassalaam, Saam |
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Khariya |
09/27/04 at 23:21:58 |
[slm] We definitely some sort of Muslim social services. There are alot of poor Muslims out there who need financial and medical help but can't afford it. The zakat box at the masjid just doesn't cover it. I've been twirling this idea in my head since I was kid. My MSA is working on getting some system of tutoring started up at Muslims schools. I was so ashamed when I saw their test scores in the paper. |
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nouha |
09/28/04 at 00:50:11 |
salaams hmmm... a Muslim hospital sounds pretty hard to do esp with so many communities lacking funding.... but maybe what we can do is make other public or private hospitals more muslim... for example... when a muslim baby is born... the adhan and shahada are said into its ears... so maybe the hospital can hire a muslim on stand by to do it (if the parents cant/too tired :P to do it.... ) the times that i have been admitted to the hospital, i have always been visited by a nun who comes and performs some kind of prayer on my head... then after shes done... i kindly say to her im not christian... maybe the hospital can hire a muslim to go comfort and make dua with the muslims there... just some suggestions.... salams nouha:) |
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lala |
09/29/04 at 12:16:49 |
[slm] yeh lack of things. but any hospital muslim or not is better than none. first off, muslims are rich here in the USA- well there are a lot of rich muslims. I'm sorry, but if you have tons of money lying around and youre just hoarding it up in some bank or under a mat in your house somewhere, then you'll be accountable for that. its those with the funds that need to start making moves. ever notice the names of some bldgs or wings in some NY hospitals? you got names like 'weill', 'kimmel', 'sloan', etc etc etc.... be nice to have a different twist to things. But look, theres a call now for chaplaincy at hospitals etc. For those qualified and interested its something to look into. For dr's, nurses etc, do your part. HOld Jummah in the hospital etc. Do what you can and perhaps once our communities become more established, and rich ;) monies can be used for purposes other than weddings ::) much love yall |
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Angelic |
09/30/04 at 05:49:45 |
just another food for thought about muslim medical services. I was in Egypt this year and discovered that women found working in hospitals are considered loose. The mentality is that they are a haven for prostitutes only for the reasoning that you may have women nurses or doctors taking care of men. I just thought that was sooooooooooo sad. |
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Mossy |
10/03/04 at 19:46:17 |
There are a large number of Islamic charities in the US, they just lack publicity and fund raising skills. Probably too few muslim journalists/public relations people as everyone becomes a doctor or accountant ;) The reason for the large number of Christian/Jewish hospitals is the time period they have been here and the "old" money associated. They have fully integrated and therefore set up foundations to take care of these aspects of social welfare. The main foundation funding from muslims tends to go back to their point of origination (as the majority are still "immigrants"), especially as a given amount of money will go far further in arabia or the subcontinent than it will here, as well as having a more profound effect on many, many more individuals. Christian.s/Jews do not have this problem as their countries of origination have established welfare systems on the whole as opposed to third world poverty. Similar to why there are no Chinese/Japanese hospitals so to speak despite the seeming integration of these ethnic groups. Here in the UK, the primary thrust of "Muslim" funding is either in educationl institutions (for example here in Oxford there is the Said business school and new Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies), or in religious establishment - setting up of mosques etc. The reason being that the welfare system provides for most items and these areas are the ones required.. There is an increasing prevalence of funding from the established muslims to community charities however, improving social conditions as well as providing some form of guidance for the somewhat confused kiddos. |
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eleanor |
10/05/04 at 15:59:49 |
[slm] In a town near me there is an islamic umbrella organisation that co-ordinates the different mosques in the town and their activities. Which is great in itself. Even better, they have recently set up a Muslim home-help organisation, which provides for families where one or both parents need full/part time care, due to illness or disability etc. These home-helpers are govt. funded anyway, so this organisation said why not set up an islamic group, so they understand how a muslim home is run and have no problems when entering the home to take over much of the daily tasks. And they have Muslimahs who care for the women, including bathing/washing the patient and running the household while the mother is sick. I think it's a great idea and a simple one. There should be more of that kind of thing too. wasalaam eleanor |
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