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wsps
01/15/05 at 14:30:03


Ibn Quayyim al Jawziyyah (rahimahullah) On Speaking About Allah Sub’hanahu Wa Ta’ala Without Knowledge


Said, Shaikh al-Islam Ibn Quayyim al-Jawziyyah (rahimahullah) warning those who speak about Allah Sub’hanahu Wa Ta’ala without knowledge and we ask Zakir Naik to refer to the books of the Salaf and refer back to the Ulamaa in these important issues and do not put the masses to trial just by referring ‘The Fundamentals of Tawheed’ by his close friend Bilal Philips!!!

To make whatever statements about Allah Ta’ala ; To open your mouth in the matters relating to Fatwa and judgements without knowledge (Ilm) , is from the greatest and highest of all forbidden matters. The Saying of Allah Sub’hanahu Wa Ta’ala,
Say (O Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam)): "(But) the things that my Lord has indeed forbidden are AlFawâ hish (great evil sins, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly, sins (of all kinds), unrighteous oppression, joining partners (in worship) with Allâh for which He has given no authority, and saying things about Allâh of which you have no knowledge." (Surah Al-A'raf , Surah 7 Ayah 33).

It is apparent from this ayah that to say some things relating to Shar’eeah without knowledge is from the greatest and highest of forbidden(haram) matters. This is because in the ayah the matters that are forbidden are in (ascending order) order of lowest to highest. In the beginning is mentioned the lightest issue meaning the forbiddance of Fawahish; then after that is a forbidden matter bigger than the first one, which is Sin and Zulm (oppression); and after that is mentioned the forbiddance of a matter more bigger than the second, which is to associate partners with Allah Ta’ala (shirk) and at the fourth (place) and last (place) and at the highest level , the most greatest and highest of the things that is most haram is mentioned which is, to take the Name of Allah and speak something without any knowledge whether that statement is made regarding ,
1.The Names Of Allah Sub’hanahu Wa Ta’ala
2.The Attributes Of Allah Sub’hanahu Wa Ta’ala
3.The Actions Of Allah Sub’hanahu Wa Ta’ala
4.About His deen and His Shar’eeah
For all of this it is a general Command.

And it is mentioned in an ayah:
Do not put forth from you tongue falsely attributing to Allah Ta’ala….

"And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: "This is lawful and this is forbidden," so as to invent lies against Allâh. Verily, those who invent lies against Allâh will never prosper. (An-Nahl 16:116)

So do not purchase a small worldly gain (from it) but you will be engulfed in a mighty tormenting punishment in the Hereafter. So observe how Allah Ta’ala has revealed a warning upon those who lie and say falsehood about the Ahkaam of Allah Ta’ala. And how Allah has threatened those who make things which Allah has forbidden permissible and those who forbid what Allah has made permissible. Allah Ta’ala has elucidated in His statement that until the slave (abd) has knowledge of what Allah has made permissible and what Allah has made forbidden it is not permissible in any way to declare anything as halal or haram.

It is the qawl (statement) of some of the salaf that a human being should save himself from saying such an such thing is made forbidden by Allah and such and such things are made permissible by Allah lest it should be that Allah Sub’hanahu Wa Ta’ala says, you are a liar, neither have I made this permissible and nor have I made that forbidden. So until clearly one finds from the revelation of Allah that such and such a thing is forbidden or permissible, its not befitting for any Muslim to issue fatwa just based on Taqleed or just based on some interpretation (or assumption or logic )…….

[Taken from I’laamul Muwaqqi’een Ann’ Rabbil’aalameen, Urdu Translation, Volume 1, Page 44] [slm] [slm]
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Re: Calling Allah with names of Hindu Mushrik Diet
momineqbal
01/15/05 at 20:32:35
[slm],

I do not understand the point of this post. What is the context? Why are you taking the name of Dr. Zakir Naik??? I get a hint that there might be some misunderstanding involved?
Re: Calling Allah with names of Hindu Mushrik Diet
jannah
01/16/05 at 03:35:27
[wlm]

yeah good point momineqbal?? i didn't see those references when i first read this

who is this written by too?? and why diss zakir naik and bilal phillips??

btw we have a policy of non insulting scholars on the board and btw to my knowledge they don't read the board so posting something here doesn't help give them any naseeha

Re: Calling Allah with names of Hindu Mushrik Diet
wsps
01/17/05 at 06:56:36
Sorry for the incomplete post.

Here is the email
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Assalaam'alaykum,

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Please check the important post on issue of Aqeedah! Also it has a wonderful investigation of the meanings of names used in Sanskrit language.

Jazakallah khair
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01/17/05 at 10:26:44
jannah
Re: Calling Allah with names of Hindu Mushrik Diet
jannah
01/17/05 at 10:31:04
wlm,

wow that thread on that other board breaks a ton of our rules here. Please re-read our constitution and note the rules about takfir, talking about scholars, etc...


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