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Dr. Amina Wadud is Evil!!! |
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ayatullah19 |
03/21/05 at 10:34:17 |
[slm] We have all heard and seen it beamed all over the world how the evil woman called Amina Wadud led a so-called congregational prayer, the first time I set my eyes on her on the CNN I immediately recognised from her look that she is evil, she does not carry the peaceful look of a muslim woman! Definitely this is end time, America has continue to be the playing field for the dajjal. Let our muslim women be quite aware of their role as spelt out by the almighty Allah, let them bow to the Quran and Sunnah let them reject all attempt to abuse the Quran and the Sunnah under the guise of women liberation. This is end time, let us all be aware. May Allah foil the evil intention of Amina Wadud and her followers. |
Re: Dr. Amina Wadud is Evil!!! |
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jannah |
03/21/05 at 12:42:35 |
[slm] Sister, your post makes me very sad. It is reactionary and un-dawah like at all. First of all no layperson has the authority to call someone "evil" and not a "muslim woman". Please remember you are responsible for your words in front of Allah. This is why we have laws and guidelines in Islam. Anyway here is a summary of some points a scholar brought up recently. I am closing this thread as well so that no one else makes any more mistakes upon themself. --------------------- salams... Just attended a talk by a scholar last night, where he brought up this topic and talked about it AT LENGTH. Ma'shallah there is such a difference when a scholar talks about topics and when ordinary people discuss it. There was so much hikmah and wisdom in his talk. Anyway I have to go off to some more exciting adventures here but just want to give you a summary of what he said: -the more you learn about islam the more open-minded and broad minded you get and there was a famous scholar that would never condemn anyone and he would always say 'maybe they are following a different madhab' - then he began with saying that we are so emotional as an ummah and we just get upset with people we disagree with and we don't even talk to each other. like for example the woman who was trying to lead jumah in new york. people are in an emotional fervor about it and issued death threats against her.. instead of trying to communicate with her or discuss things. - first he was extremely upset that some people were giving "death threats" against her. he said that the declaring someone kafir and the laws of murtd (apostacy) are extremely complex and only allowed to be carried out by the state, and even if what she was doing was haram... so many muslims are committing haram and we don't go around calling for their death!!! - secondly he said that he knows sister amina personally and feels that she is very sincere, she has dedicated her life to islam becoming an islamic studies professor and studying islam. even if she is confused or saying something wrong does not mean we should mock or not respect her. she has more sincerity towards islam than some of the people criticizing her. if he met her he would say salam to her. - then he said that yes there are texts that talk about women leading the prayer and mentioned a reference by abu thawr and tabari who was one of the leading mufassarin of islamic history who said under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE they can lead AND IBN TAYMIYYAH said for taraweeh? (i think the audience was quite shocked) - he then went on to say that a woman leading jumah however is INVALID and this is agreed upon by the consensus of the scholars in all schools of Islamic thought - so he said that yes its INVALID but we should be careful not to get all emotional and reactionary about it and we should be calm and 'cool as a cucumber' and try to bring people back into the fold of islamic mainstream instead of alienating them.. instead of chasing people further away with condemnation and hatred - he gave an example of this shaikh from morocco who went to a jumah led by a woman physician and he waited till the end to ask her what was going on, and turns out that all the men had just converted to islam and since jumah was wajib she didn't know what to do so she ended up doing it..but the shaikh didn't go up and start yelling at her or calling her kaffir etc. he kindly went up and asked her if they followed a different madhab or something!! -he said this wasn't a new thing and there are some places where women have been giving khutbah for a long time, and sadly some of their khutbahs are better than men's!! (all the audience cracked upon that) and this is a reflection of the times - he said there are so many muslims that don't even pray and these people are at least wanting to pray and are sicnere, so we should honor that and not humiliate them because at least they have some kind of concern for their deen -we shouldn't chase people away from islam, what is better than condemning her is trying to bring to bring her back into the mainstream scholarship of islam - we can have valid differences and still talk to one another with dignity and honor -he then went on to talk about the unity of the community etc and his main talk - Lastly a note in the Q&A, he said that we have to be careful about saying that Islamic scholarship is patriarchal. it's dangerous to say that because we have so many scholars that were women even going back to Aisha ra. who would ask questions of the prophet to the extent of questioning his actions and questioning why this verse and this verse seemingly seemed contradictory, and he would explain it to her. modern countries may oppress women but that is completely separate from our Islamic history of scholarship. and..... I have to go but I thought you guys could benefit from that inshallah. May Allah forgive my mistakes in transmittal and Allah knows best... salaam |
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