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| saliheli |
| 04/25/05 at 16:23:33 |
| [slm] I am a new muslim from Finland. I was visiting family of my husband in Algeria for the first time, and I found some things new and confusing. 1. I was praying with sisters of my husband and they told me that woman can´t pray aloud (recite koran). I Have always recited koran in fajr, maghrid and aicha, am I wrong? 2. When I pray together with my husband can I be "the imamu" and lead the prayer? 3. Sister of my husband also told me that woman can go to moskeija only dhur and asr and jumaa. Is this right? 4. One sister of my husband prayed dhur before adhan, because she had to go to work. Is this acceptable? I have learned, that you can never pray before time of prayer, but you can pray after that, before next prayer. I wish that you will help me find answers for these guestions. I haven´t found any answers in litterature. Sari :-) |
| answers insha Allah |
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| Kathy |
| 04/26/05 at 05:43:10 |
| [wlm] Insha Allah these answers are right. The beaty of this baord is that someone will correct me if I am wrong! Alhumdullillah! 1. Pray very very quitly, almost less than a whisper. 2. Hubby should lead prayer 3. Woman can go to the masjid anytime. 4. Pray after the adthan, if it is called as soon as the prayer comes in..unless the adthan is called late. |
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| jannah |
| 04/26/05 at 08:48:39 |
| wlm sari, welcome to the Madina!! Post an intro in the Bebzi stand ;) 1. Women can pray in jamah (in congregation) the same as men. The Imamah prayer leader will stand in the middle of the line instead of in front though. And the Imamah that leads does say the prayer out loud just like a regular Imam. The ones behind do not need to say it outloud of course but as Kathy said they can go up to a whisper. Congregation for women differs quite a bit in the schools of thought. Some say women don't need to pray in congregation at all so they always pray alone (Hanafi) and so on. 2. No he should lead unless there is some type of exceptional case going on where he can't. 3. That's kind of weird.. Maybe that's when the women go or when it's open for women or something? 4. She should pray the prayer in it's time unless there's some kind of extraordinary circumstances. and God knows best :) |
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| Faythful |
| 04/26/05 at 15:44:40 |
| In question number 1, I think sister saliheli was referring to prayers or reciting qur'an in general ... can she do this aloud? If she's praying by herself, or reciting by herself, why would she have to whisper? |
| (3) it would be nice of women could actually learn |
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| WhiteSomali |
| 04/26/05 at 23:00:28 |
| [quote author=Faythful link=board=lighthouse;num=1114460771;start=0#3 date=04/26/05 at 15:44:40]In question number 1, I think sister saliheli was referring to prayers or reciting qur'an in general ... can she do this aloud? If she's praying by herself, or reciting by herself, why would she have to whisper? [/quote] [slm] If ur by urself you don't have to keep it down to a whisper, except for dhuhr and asr prayers cuz they are always said quietly. correct me if im wrong [slm] |
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| Kathy |
| 04/27/05 at 08:28:43 |
| [slm] This is one of the good things about this board. A brother, whom I respect for his knowledge, had told me that a woman's voice is her awrah and we are to recite the Qur'an very quietly. After reading the posts, i decided to do some checking and found what jannah said to be true. An example of the woman's voice not being her awrah, on Islam Q&A, was that women are allowed to give salams, ask scholars questions,etc.. The only exception is that I read is a non mharem man should not hear the woman reciting, if her voice is alluring. |
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| MIT |
| 04/27/05 at 11:17:32 |
| assalaamu alaikum Also, it IS allowed to pray before the adhan if you are combining prayers due to travel, etc. So e.g. you pray Asr early with Zuhr, and Isha early at the time of Maghrib. |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/09/05 at 16:35:06 |
| [slm] [quote author=saliheli link=board=lighthouse;num=1114460771;start=0#0 date=04/25/05 at 16:23:33] [slm] I am a new muslim from Finland. I was visiting family of my husband in Algeria for the first time, and I found some things new and confusing.[/quote] Congratulations on accepting Islam. May Allah strengthen your faith and nourish you with the knowledge of His Deen. Any time you visit a new place you will see people doing things in ways that are foreign to you. So it is with Muslim countries. Sometimes different cultures have adopted different ways of practicing Islam - some correct, some incorrect. So don't be surprised by the diversity you see. Always authenticate what you learn though, as you are doing, especially when it comes to matters of worship. May Allah reward you. [quote]1. I was praying with sisters of my husband and they told me that woman can´t pray aloud (recite koran). I Have always recited koran in fajr, maghrid and aicha, am I wrong? [/quote] Women cannot pray aloud in front of men who are not related to her. However, if she is alone, or with men who are related to her, it is ok to pray aloud in Fajr, Maghrib and Isha, insha Allah. [quote]2. When I pray together with my husband can I be "the imamu" and lead the prayer?[/quote] It's better for your husband to pray in the Masjid, but if you two have to pray together, your husband should lead the prayer if he knows how to pray. If he doesn't know how to pray, then you should teach him how to pray as soon as possible. [quote]3. Sister of my husband also told me that woman can go to moskeija only dhur and asr and jumaa. Is this right?[/quote] Women can go to the Masjid at any time as long as it is safe for them to go. If it is not safe for them to go, they should pray where it is safe for them to pray. Unfortunately, some countries don't have accomodations for women at the Masjids. In this case, you have no choise but to pray at home. However, please note that women are not rewarded any more for praying in a Masjid than praying at home. Men, however, are rewarded 25-27 times more for praying in a congregation at the Masjid. [quote]4. One sister of my husband prayed dhur before adhan, because she had to go to work. Is this acceptable? I have learned, that you can never pray before time of prayer, but you can pray after that, before next prayer.[/quote] If you mean that she prayed Dhuhr before the time of Dhuhr began because she had to go to work, then what she did was wrong. You are not allowed to pray Dhuhr before the time for Dhuhr begins at all. In *extreme* circumstances, (severe illness, for example), you can pray Dhuhr *after* its time has expired. But not before. When travelling you can shorten the prayers and combine them, and there are rules for that which we can tell you about insha Allah if you want to know. But in the circumstances of your relative, she was not travelling. And even if she was, she could stil not have prayed Dhuhr before its time began. And Allah knows best. Abu Hamza |
| 05/09/05 at 16:35:40 |
| Abu_Hamza |
| Re: about prayers |
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| sis |
| 05/09/05 at 17:12:58 |
| alsalamu alaykum wa rhmat Ullahi wa barakatuh, Jazakum Allahu khayra for those clarifications everyone. Br Abu Hamza, about the reward for men praying in congregation...I've read about this so many times but some confusion just hit me. Is not a woman's prayer at home rewarded as though she has gone to pray at the masjid in congregation? Does that mean if a woman goes to pray at the mosque, she does not get the reward that men do? From what i understand, a woman may still get the same reward that men do, if she prays in congregation at the mosque, but praying at home is the better, easier option. Am i mistaken in my understanding? If so, please clarify. |
| Women praying at home vs. the Masjid |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/09/05 at 18:18:45 |
| [slm] [quote author=sis link=board=lighthouse;num=1114460771;start=0#8 date=05/09/05 at 17:12:58] From what i understand, a woman may still get the same reward that men do, if she prays in congregation at the mosque, but praying at home is the better, easier option. [/quote] Essentially you're saying the same thing that I was saying - that the woman does not get any *extra* reward by praying at the Masjid vis-a-vis praying at home. This is not true for the men, who get *extra* reward by praying in congregation at the Masjid vis-a-vis praying alone at home. This does not mean that the woman gets *less* reward compared to the man, if the man prays at the Masjid and the woman prays at home. However, the man may get *less* reward than the woman, if they both pray at home!! Wallahu a'lam. |
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| jannah |
| 05/09/05 at 23:05:45 |
| huh??? man or woman receives 27x the reward for praying in congregation (whether men and women or just women) true? (unless ur hanafi where there is no congregation fow women) |
| 05/09/05 at 23:06:51 |
| jannah |
| Women's prayer in congregation |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/10/05 at 00:45:30 |
| [slm] Allahu a'lam, but I have always thought that the hadith about the merit being 25-27 times referred strictly to the men. For the women, I was always taught that the prayer at home was as meritorious for them as the man's prayer in the Masjid. If that wasn't the case, and the woman's prayer in the Masjid in jamaa'ah was also 25-27 times more meritorious, then why did Rasulullah (saw) encourage the women to pray at home? Why would he encourage them to do a 25-27 times less meritorious act? Furthermore, if it really was 25-27 times more meritorious for the women to pray at the Masjid, then the female companions of the Prophet (saw) would have always prayed at the Masajid, just like the male companions of the Prophet (saw) did. Why did Aisha and Hafsa and others who lived right by the Masjid al-Nabawi sometimes pray at home if it was 25-27 times more reward for them to pray at the Masjid? Were they the kind of women that would let go of such a huge reward? The actual text in the hadith regarding this says "rajul" [man]. I know that this isn't enough evidence to establish that the injunction of the hadith is muqayyad [specified] for men, because the word "rajul" is often used in the Sunnah in a mutlaq [general] form. However, it seems from the other reasons that I gave above that the word in the hadith is meant to be taken at its face value - i.e. it's for men only. If you can point out any specific opinion of any of the four school of thoughts which state otherwise, please let me know. I may be wrong, but this is what I have learned. Wallahu ta'ala a'lam. |
| Faraz Rabbani and Salih al-Munajjid |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/10/05 at 00:56:28 |
| [slm] Here is a related piece written by Faraz Rabbani: Q. Is there more reward for women to pray at home or in congregation with men (that being not necessarily in a mosque with separate praying areas)? A. In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful & Compassionate From a previous question answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani: A man only gets full reward for his prayers, by what our beloved Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) told us, if he prays in congregation, in the masjid. For a woman, on the other hand, he told us that, 'A woman's prayer in the depths of her house is better than her prayer in this masjid of mine.' [(is better) = has more reward; (this masjid of mine) = the Masjid al-Nabawi!] Had women's full reward for prayer depended on going to the masjid or praying in congregation, then this would have placed a great hardship and spiritual loss on mothers and other women who are at home. Rather, from Allah's infinite wisdom and mercy, He made the religious responsibility of each gender consonant with the nature of their social roles. As for praying in congregation with men, there is nothing wrong with it. In fact, if a man is unable to make it to the masjid for some reason, it is recommended for him to pray in congregation with his family, to get the reward. However, it is generally disliked for women to go to the masjid just to pray in congregation, because it is reversing the nature of their religious responsibility, as we have seen. BUT, if they want to go to the masjid for other reasons, such as gaining religious knowledge, asking a question, meeting other religious sisters [for good company is often not readily found at home or at school, and is a necessary fuel for one's spiritual life], then there is nothing wrong with going to the masjid or praying in congregation there. Wassalam. ---------------------------------------------------- P.S. Shaykh Munajjid also says on Islam-QA: "The multiplied reward for praying in congregation applies only to men." [Please refer to http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=12451&dgn=4] |
| 05/10/05 at 01:01:57 |
| Abu_Hamza |
| hmmm |
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| jannah |
| 05/10/05 at 01:56:00 |
| wlm, Allahu alam maybe that's his opinion or that he's talking about something else...but i've never heard someone say outright that women do not get the same reward as men for praying in congregation. The Sahabiyat did go to the prayers and were eager to do so.. fajr and isha even alone, this is recorded. As for why some of the ummal mumineen didn't at certain times there could be many reasons. The question is, if it was so unanimously meritorious to pray at home then why didn't all the women pray at home all the time throughout muslim history. and why do women pray in congregation when there is no merit for it (non-hanafi i mean). and there are many hadith not just one or two that talk about the virtues and rewards of congregational prayer..are these all directed to men only? like the one about praying isha in congregation and fajr and receiving the reward of the full night.. or even ones that do not use the word "rajul" ie. "The reward of salah performed congregation outweighs that of salah performed individually by twenty-seven degrees." (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim) "Give good news to those who go to the mosque in the darkness of the night to offer the Prayer in congregation, that on the Day of Judgement they will be provided with a perfect light." [at-Tirmidhi] even hadith about 'when one hears adhan they should hasten to the congregational prayers' ie they aren't allowed to leave.. does this apply to only men? or that prayer in the haram is 100,000xs and in madina 10,000xs, will the women get the same reward for praying in their homes in makkah than in the haram? this whole premise is problematic.... but i'll find out inshaAllah because i remember this from before but not the hadiths etc behind it and i think it's very strong of you to say ", it is generally disliked for women to go to the masjid just to pray in congregation," so i'll ask the big B and see what is up inshallah wlm, |
| 05/10/05 at 02:09:54 |
| jannah |
| Re: hmmm |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/10/05 at 09:35:25 |
| [slm] [quote author=jannah link=board=lighthouse;num=1114460771;start=10#13 date=05/10/05 at 01:56:00] and i think it's very strong of [u]you[/u] to say ", it is generally disliked for women to go to the masjid just to pray in congregation," [/quote] Just to clarify, *I* didn't say that. That part was from Faraz Rabbani's response. Abu Hamza |
| Re: about prayers |
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| sis |
| 05/10/05 at 09:47:50 |
| Alsalamu alaykum wa rhmat Ullahi wa barakatuh, Khayran insha'Allah.. The reason i brought this up is because i have heard scholar's encourage women to pray at the masjid, not for the reason's mentionned by Faraz Rabbani, but to just plain experience the beauty of praying in congregation in the house of Allah ta'ala. Jazak Allahu khayra bro Abu Hamza, but honestly, i'm still a little confused. Maybe i'm just not clueing in on the wording of your answer. So, a woman is still rewarded the reward of praying in congregation whether she prays at home or the masjid? Please forgive me for the continued questionning...i guess this is what happens when i don't keep brushing up on the 'ilm i've gained in the past. |
| NS |
| Re: about prayers |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/10/05 at 10:47:16 |
| [slm] [quote author=sis link=board=lighthouse;num=1114460771;start=10#16 date=05/10/05 at 09:47:50]So, a woman is still rewarded the reward of praying in congregation whether she prays at home or the masjid?[/quote] Sister, what I have always learned, understood, and believed is that women do not get any special/more/extra reward by praying in a congregation at the Masjid. Her prayer at home is equal to a man's prayer in congregation at the Masjid. I keep wording it this way intentionally, because this is what I was taught. The way you are wording it may have other implications which I do not want to dis/agree with simply because I am not sure about it at this point. Regarding Jannah's last post, insha Allah I look forward to hearing what her imam has to say about this. However, I would also like to point out that Rasulullah (saw) had said in a very serious hadith that he would have burned the houses of people who did not go to pray in jama'ah. This hadith, along with other evidences, has been used as evidence for the obligation for men to pray in jama'ah by some scholars of the Maliki school (except where there is necessity). However, we note that this hadith is never applied to women. There is clearly a rukhsah for the women in the ahadith regarding this subject, and this is from the Rahmah of Allah (swt) towards them. Wallahu a'lam. The bottom line of this whole subject, in my opinion, is this: 1. Women should not be stopped from praying in the Masajid. 2. Women should not feel they are getting less reward if they are praying alone at home. 3. Women in the West especially should make it a point to attend Masajid to gain beneficial knowledge and serve the Da'wah as much as possible. 4. Men should strive to pray each prayer in jama'ah at the Masjid, and feel remorse if they don't do so for illegitimate excuses. Wallahu a'lam. |
| NS |
| Re: about prayers |
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| sis |
| 05/11/05 at 09:46:01 |
| Alsalamu alaykum wa rhmat Ullahi wa barakatuh, Jazak Allahu khayra for the clarification bro...and also for the reminder to be careful about how we word our statements. Walsalamu alaykum wa rhmat Ullahi wa barakatuh. |
| women 's prayers at home =men's at mosque |
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| sal |
| 05/11/05 at 14:57:31 |
[wlm]What I know so far is that women’s prayers at home equals to the same reward men get at mosque and the vice versa . Women are not obliged to pray in the mosque but they are not prohibited. what is then the need to pray in the mosque like men, as long as she is offered the same chance of men ‘s reward at home unless for some rare reasons such as lectures to be attended which is very infrequent |
| The need for women to attend Masajid in the West |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/11/05 at 16:40:11 |
| [slm] [quote author=Salem link=board=lighthouse;num=1114460771;start=10#18 date=05/11/05 at 14:57:31]what is then the need to pray in the mosque like men, as long as she is offered the same chance of men ‘s reward at home unless for some rare reasons such as lectures to be attended which is very infrequent [/quote] Akhil Salem, Where you are currently residing in Saudi Arabia, this may be the case. However, here in the West, women need to be encouraged go to the Masajid. This does not mean that we go out of our way to attach certain extra rewards for them going to the Masajid - without textual evidences which mention such rewards - just to encourage them to go to Masajid. However, encouragement is needed, and for one simple reason: In the West, the Masajid are the only place where Muslims can come together and be in an Islamic environment. Women not only have the opportunity learn their Deen in the Masajid, but to interact with other Muslim sisters, teach Muslim children, teach non-Muslim women about Islam, provide social/moral/psychological support to other sisters in the community, etc. In a Muslim country, people interact with Muslims on the streets, and in the neighborhood. If you turn the TV on there are Muslim programs. You hear the adhan from the Masjid. Such Islamic atmosphere does not exist in the West except in the Masjid (better known as "Islamic Centers"). For Muslim women in the West to protect their Deen and identity as Muslims, and to improve their Islamic knowledge, bonds of sisterhood, and nearness to Allah (swt), it is extremely important that they be regular visitors of these Islamic Centers. And so to answer your question, "what is then the need to pray in the mosque like men," it is because most activities in the Islamic Centers are organized around the prayer times. And thus, for women to be regular attendees of these programs and activities (of learning and Da'wah), they would consequently be performing their prayers with the rest of the people in the Masjid in jamaa'ah. Wallahu ta'ala a'lam. Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. |
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| bhaloo |
| 05/12/05 at 00:03:04 |
| [slm] Some very confusing statements were said in some of the earlier posts, and perhaps I have misunderstood what the person(s) were trying to convey. Insha'Allah I wish to clarify this matter and present what the scholars have said. Sheikh Munajjid addressed the following question: Question : What is the ruling on sisters making salah in public?. Answer : Praise be to Allaah. Woman should be protected and concealed from men as much as her guardian can do that. The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) preferred for women to pray in their houses and said that their reward for doing so is greater than their reward for praying in the mosque. It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A woman’s prayer in her room is better than her prayer in her courtyard, and her prayer in her cabinet is better than her prayer in her room.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 570; al-Tirmidhi, 1173. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 1/136). “Her room” refers to a woman’s own room in the house, and “her courtyard” refers to the central area (in a traditional Arabic house), off which all the rooms of the house open. A cabinet is like a small room inside the large room, in which personal items are stored. (Commentary from ‘Awn al-Ma’bood). It was narrated that Umm Humayd the wife of Abu Humayd al-Saa’idi came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I like to pray with you.” He said, “I know that you like to pray with me, but your prayer in your room is better for you than your prayer in your courtyard and your prayer in your courtyard is better for you than your praying in your house, and your prayer in your house is better for you than your prayer in the mosque of your people, and your prayer in the mosque of your people is better for you than your prayer in my mosque.” So she issued orders that a prayer-place be prepared for her in the furthest and darkest part of her house, and she used to pray there until she met Allaah (i.e., died).” (Narrated by Ahmad, 26550). This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Ibn Khuzaymah in his Saheeh, 3/95; Ibn Maajah, 5/595; al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 1/135 It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “If the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had lived to see how women have started to behave, he would have prevented them [from going to the mosque] as the women of the Children of Israel were prevented.” I said, to ‘Umrah, “Were they prevented?” He said, “Yes.” (al-Bukhaari, 831; Muslim, 445) ‘Abd al-‘Azeem Abaadi said: The reason why their praying in their homes is better is because it is safer from fitnah or temptation. This was later borne out by the way in which women began to make a wanton display of their adornments, hence ‘Aa’ishah said what she said. (‘Awn al-Ma’bood, 2/193). Hence women should be careful when praying in public places, or go far away from where men can see them, and should not pray in a public place when the time of prayer comes, unless she has no other place in which to pray. Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah al-Jibreen said: With regard to women, their houses are better for them. If they need to pray in the marketplace and there is a place that is screened off, there is nothing wrong with them praying there, in sha Allah. Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 1/333 But what some of the common people say, that a woman’s prayer is invalidated just because a man happens to see her, has no basis in sharee’ah at all. The women used to pray at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in one mosque and he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not rule their prayer to be invalid. And Allaah knows best. |
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| bhaloo |
| 05/12/05 at 00:13:40 |
| [slm] Sheikh Munajjid of http://www.islam-qa.com was asked: I know it is complusory for men to pray at the Masjid thier 5 daily prayers. But when a person lives a distance away from the Masjid at what distance is he not required to go to the masjid for every prayer? Example, if it took someone one hour per trip to the masjid and back to work or home. (That is 20 minutes to go to masjid, 20 minutes at masjid and 20 minutes back to work or home.) Also this is the only masjid in the city. Answer : Praise be to Allaah. Firstly: It is obligatory for men to attend the prayer in congregation in the mosque. Not praying in congregation is one of the signs of hypocrisy. The further away one’s house is from the mosque, the greater the reward. It was narrated that Abu Moosa said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The people who will have the greatest reward for prayer are those who come the furthest distance. Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 623; Muslim, 622. Secondly: Prayer in congregation is obligatory for those who live close to the mosque, not for those who live far away. The Sunnah describes those who are regarded as living close to the mosque as being those who can hear the call to prayer. What is meant is those who can hear the call to prayer from the mosque with no amplification of the muezzins’s voice, when the muezzin raises his voice, and there is no wind or noise etc to interfere with hearing it. Muslim (653) narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: A blind man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I do not have anyone to guide me to the mosque,” and he asked the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to grant him a concession allowing him to pray in his house, and he granted him that. Then when he turned to leave, he called him back and said, “Can you hear the call to prayer?” He said, “Yes.” He said, “Then respond to it.” Ibn Maajah (793) narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever hears the call to prayer and does not respond, there is no prayer for him (i.e., his prayer is not valid), except for the one who has an excuse.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 637. Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Majmoo’, 4/353: What is meant by hearing the call to prayer is when the muezzin stands at the edge of the town and other sounds are silent and the wind is still, and one is listening out. If a person can hear him, he is obliged (to attend prayers in congregation), and if he cannot hear him then he is not obliged. The Standing Committee was asked: If I can hear the muezzin from a distance of eight hundred meters, should I pray where I am or go to the mosque where the call to prayer was made? They replied: You have to go to this mosque and pray there with the congregation, or in any other mosque that may be easier for you, so long as you are able to do that… then the Committee quoted as evidence the two ahaadeeth mentioned above. The Committee was also asked about a man who lives on the eighth floor and the mosque is about 500 meters away from him. Is it permissible for him to offer the prayers in congregation with his family members in his apartment? They replied: Congregational prayer in the mosque is obligatory, so you have to attend the mosques and pray the obligatory prayer there with the Muslims. You do not have the right to a concession allowing you to pray at home with your family because of this distance. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 8/59 Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen was asked: Is there any definition of the distance between one’s house and the mosque? He replied: There is no specific distance defined in sharee’ah, rather that depends on ‘urf (custom) or the distance within which the adhaan can be heard without a microphone. As’ilah al-Baab al-Maftooh, question no. 700. Shaykh Ibn Baaz said: The one who can hear the call to prayer given in a regular voice without amplification is obliged to respond and to come and pray in congregation in the mosque in which the call is given… But for those who live far away from the mosque and cannot hear the call to prayer except with amplification do not have to come to the mosque. They and those who are with them may pray in a separate congregation. If they take the trouble to attend the prayer with the congregation in the mosque whose call to prayer they cannot hear except with amplification because they are too far away, that will bring them a greater reward. Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), 12/58. And Allaah knows best. |
| more questions about prayers |
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| saliheli |
| 05/18/05 at 15:46:26 |
| [slm] Thank you for everyone for your answers in my problem al hamdu li Allah. I have two more question about prayer. 1. Can I pray sunna if I pray fard prayer late? How much is so late that you can´t pray sunna anymore? 2. If you make mistake in prayer or you aren´t sure how many raka you had prayed I have read from somewhere that you have to make sujud two times after you have sayed [slm]. Do you have to make tahiiyatullah after this two extra sujud? Shukran jaziilan [wlm] Sari |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/18/05 at 17:07:43 |
| [slm] [quote author=saliheli link=board=lighthouse;num=1114460771;start=20#22 date=05/18/05 at 15:46:26] 1. Can I pray sunna if I pray fard prayer late? [/quote] Yes you can. [quote]How much is so late that you can´t pray sunna anymore?[/quote] Usually you can just pray it when you're praying your fard which you're praying late. So if you are praying fajr after its time, pray the two sunnahs right before it, and then pray the two fard. etc. [quote]2. If you make mistake in prayer or you aren´t sure how many raka you had prayed I have read from somewhere that you have to make sujud two times after you have sayed [slm]. Do you have to make tahiiyatullah after this two extra sujud?[/quote] No, you don't. But you say the salaam again after the two sujud. Wallahu a'lam. |
| how do women pray when they are in delivery? |
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| saliheli |
| 05/27/05 at 06:43:49 |
| [slm] I want to ask, how women pray when they are in delivery? Or is it so that you can´t pray anymore when your child water breakes? How long pause women take after child is born to start to pray again? [wlm] Sari |
| 2nd question should be in Sister's forum |
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| Trustworthy |
| 05/28/05 at 23:25:18 |
| [slm]... "If you make mistake in prayer or you aren´t sure how many raka you had prayed I have read from somewhere that you have to make sujud two times after you have sayed . Do you have to make tahiiyatullah after this two extra sujud?" 1. If you make a mistake in prayer and you remembered that mistake then you can just make "sajda sahwun" which you do not need to say the tashahud again. 2. If there is sitting in between the rakats for tashahud and you get up to pray that third rakaat missing the tashahud, after the last rakat you make sajda sahwun and this is where you will have to recite the tashahud again and then say salaam. 3. If you mistakenly missed a rakaat and then remembered or if you added one extra rakkat by mistake and remembered or you thought you did then your khushu is lost and you should perform the entire salaat again. "how women pray when they are in delivery? Or is it so that you can´t pray anymore when your child water breakes? How long pause women take after child is born to start to pray again?" 1. The breaking of water is just fluid from the womb and not considered impure. However, you still have to clean yourself up, make wudhu and make salaat in it's proper time. Now if you are in labor, but the baby has not come out yet where you haven't started blood discharge and it is prayer time, you pray while you are in bed. If it is too painful, you can make up the prayer after the below answer. 2. This is blood discharge at/after delivery of the baby and is called "nifaas". Most wome will bleed for forty days. This is considered the maximum number of which your blood discharge is actually blood. So after 40 days, then make ghusl and start your salaats even if there is blood still coming out onto your clothes or the prayer mat (just wash and change after). However, you must make wudhu for each salaat. Now if blood has completely gone in less then 40 days then make your ghusl the day the blood stoppped discharging and make salaat. If the blood stopped discharging in less then 40 days and you think it might return so you don't make ghusl and sallat and then the 40 days arrive and still no blood came out then you will have to make up for the prayers you missed. So basically, you make ghusl and salaat thereafter when the blood has stopped discharging with the exception of the maximum days of 40 when even if you bleed after, make ghusl and make salaat anyways. This rule also applies to your menses which 10 days is the maximum. Allah (SWT) bless..... Ma-assalaamah..... |
| 05/28/05 at 23:34:17 |
| Trustworthy |
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