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| The Magi & the Wall |
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| timbuktu |
| 05/10/05 at 12:54:28 |
| [slm] I had a lovely experiece :) A few days ago, my tea mug overtured o my keyoard, thus prevetig me from postig ay more. My so was uale to ope it for cleaig. After dryig it has developed some curious lapses, like it caot typr certai letters. perhaps you ca guess. Evetually, my so will uy me a ew keyoard. util the I was goig to keep quiet, ut I saw this pretty ad sad cartoo. Thought you might ejoy it: [img]http://www.rense.com/1.imagesG/magi_e_muro.gif[/img] |
| Here is my N for you |
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| sal |
| 05/10/05 at 15:59:38 |
| Is it oly the N facing this bad coditio? you ca use mie.But get it back to me as soo as possible . ;-) |
| 05/10/05 at 16:00:50 |
| sal |
| Nonono 'tis the '' Too |
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| Aadhil |
| 05/10/05 at 18:56:02 |
| [slm] Hehe bro Salem you only got half. 'tis the 'b' too. B&N N&B B&N there you keep on repeating it and you'll soon memorize it...so you know what letters to buy when you go to the store..... :P [] |
| TWM |
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| theOriginal |
| 05/10/05 at 23:13:43 |
| [slm] I believe those are the Three Wise Men... just makes the cartoon funnier. wasalaam. |
| The Magi & the Wall |
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| timbuktu |
| 05/11/05 at 08:53:24 |
| [slm] thaks ro Salem, for the ledig of the "" if we caot see it, it must e ecause of the ivisile ature of Salem's letters. ad thaks also ro Muslim for dtectig the asece of "" perhaps someoe else ca led me that letter. My arrow keys ar't workig either. Oce I get aew keyorad, I am goig to ope up this oe ad see what tea does to the cotact poits ad sis JO, yes you are right they are the three wise me, ut the Magi were the three wise me. see elow: take from: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09527a.htm Magi (Plural of Latin magus; Greek magoi). The "wise men from the East" who came to adore Jesus in Bethlehem (Matthew 2). I. WHO THE MAGI WERE A. Non-Biblical Evidence We may form a conjecture by non-Biblical evidence of a probable meaning to the word magoi. Herodotus (I, ci) is our authority for supposing that the Magi were the sacred caste of the Medes. They provided priests for Persia, and, regardless of dynastic vicissitudes, ever kept up their dominating religious influence. To the head of this caste, Nergal Sharezar, Jeremias gives the title Rab-Mag, "Chief Magus" (Jeremias 39:3, 39:13, in Hebrew original — Septuagint and Vulgate translations are erroneous here). After the downfall of Assyrian and Babylonian power, the religion of the Magi held sway in Persia. Cyrus completely conquered the sacred caste; his son Cambyses severely repressed it. The Magians revolted and set up Gaumata, their chief, as King of Persia under the name of Smerdis. He was, however, murdered (521 B.C.), and Darius became king. This downfall of the Magi was celebrated by a national Persian holiday called magophonia (Her., III, lxiii, lxxiii, lxxix). Still the religious influence of this priestly caste continued throughout the rule of the Achaemenian dynasty in Persia (Ctesias, "Persica", X-XV); and is not unlikely that at the time of the birth of Christ it was still flourishing under the Parthian dominion. Strabo (XI, ix, 3) says that the Magian priests formed one of the two councils of the Parthian Empire. B. Biblical Evidence The word magoi often has the meaning of "magician", in both Old and New Testaments (see Acts 8:9; 13:6, 8; also the Septuagint of Daniel 1:20; 2:2, 2:10, 2:27; 4:4; 5:7, 5:11, 5:15). St. Justin (Tryph., lxxviii), Origen (Cels., I, lx), St. Augustine (Serm. xx, De epiphania) and St. Jerome (In Isa., xix, 1) find the same meaning in the second chapter of Matthew, though this is not the common interpretation. C. Patristic Evidence No Father of the Church holds the Magi to have been kings. Tertullian ("Adv. Marcion.", III, xiii) says that they were wellnigh kings (fere reges), and so agrees with what we have concluded from non-Biblical evidence. The Church, indeed, in her liturgy, applies to the Magi the words: "The kings of Tharsis and the islands shall offer presents; the kings of the Arabians and of Saba shall bring him gifts: and all the kings of the earth shall adore him" (Psalm 71:10). But this use of the text in reference to them no more proves that they were kings than it traces their journey from Tharsis, Arabia, and Saba. As sometimes happens, a liturgical accommodation of a text has in time come to be looked upon by some as an authentic interpretation thereof. Neither were they magicians: the good meaning of magoi, though found nowhere else in the Bible, is demanded by the context of the second chapter of St. Matthew. These Magians can have been none other than members of the priestly caste already referred to. The religion of the Magi was fundamentally that of Zoroaster and forbade sorcery; their astrology and skill in interpreting dreams were occasions of their finding Christ. (See THEOLOGICAL ASPECTS OF THE AVESTA.) |
| 05/11/05 at 09:00:58 |
| timbuktu |
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