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| al hijaamah - cupping - should I do it? |
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| se7en |
| 05/17/05 at 20:06:26 |
| as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah, a sister that I know suggested to me that I should have cupping done.. for those of you who are not familiar with the term (which I wasn't until this morning :)) it is basically a method of traditional medicine in which a warm vessel is placed on the skin (usually on the back) to draw blood the surface, and then a small incision is made in the skin to release some of the blood. it is supposed to cleanse the system. apparently, this treatment is found in ancient chinese as well as arab traditional medicine.. and the sister told me that this treatment was recommended by the prophet [saw] as well.. she herself has had it done and has been trained in the procedure of doing it, so she offered to do it on me..she said that it is not necessarily for times of sickness, but can actually help in improving memory, and things like that. has anyone ever experienced this? what was it like? did it hurt? did you feel healthier/more purified afterwards? does anyone know more about it, especially texts from rasulullah [saw]? wasalaamu alaykum, a curious 7 :) |
| 05/17/05 at 20:18:32 |
| se7en |
| I do! |
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| Kathy |
| 05/17/05 at 20:47:23 |
| [slm] I do... in the 21st century way... I give/donate blood reguarly at the Red Cross! Recently their literature has included aricles about the purification that donating blood acomplishes. I remember sitting there smuggly thinking... "shoot, we Muslims already know this!" I always feel great a day later. I almost always give blood at the end of Ramadan... the final getting rid of impurities. |
| 05/17/05 at 20:49:11 |
| Kathy |
| Cupping... |
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| Aadhil |
| 05/17/05 at 22:25:03 |
| [slm] From what I understood, the process was to burn something inside a cup, then apply it to the skin surface. The fire uses up all the air, and sucks the bad blood to the surface of the skin. Then an incision is made to remove the bad blood. Allahu 'Alam. |
| Hijama |
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| MIT |
| 05/18/05 at 04:45:44 |
| assalaamu alaikum I've had it done. And i got it done by my wife! There are lots of hadith encouraging it to be done: i think there is one that goes along the lines that as the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam ascended through the different heavens on the night of al-Isra wal-Mi'raj he didn't pass any group of angels except they recommended hijama to him and his ummah. If the person you know is experienced in it, thats great. My wife's teacher said that the cuts made in the skin should be so slight that if you were making that cut on a paper, the blade shouldn't rip the paper. When i was in Medina though, some of the brothers went to some guy who did hijama to them, and they came back with great slashes on the back of the neck. That was gross. Hijama is done on specific parts of the body for specific ailments, but there is also a general all-round cleansing one (which is on the back of the neck i think). I'll ask my wife to take a look at this post and make any comments if she has any, insha'Allah. btw. i'm generally a healthy person so i didn't find any amazing difference happen to me afterwards which i could pinpoint back to having hijama done. |
| The Sunnah of al-Hijaamah |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/18/05 at 16:59:59 |
| [slm] Hijaamah comes from the root al-hajm, which means “sucking”, and is used of the action of draining the breast when an infant is suckled. Al-hajjaam is the name given to the cupper, and hijaamah is the name given to this profession. Al-mihjam is the name given to the tool in which blood is collected, or to the knife used by the cupper. Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Healing is to be found in three things: drinking honey, the knife of the cupper, and cauterization of fire.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 10/136). According to a hadeeth narrated by Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him), the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If there is any good in your medical treatments, it is in the knife of the cupper, drinking honey, or cauterization with fire, as appropriate to the cause of the illness, but I would not like to be cauterized.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 10/139) According to a hadeeth narrated by Anas ibn Maalik, may Allaah be pleased with him, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I did not pass by any group on the night when I was taken on the Night Journey (Isra’), but they said to me, ‘O Muhammad, tell your ummah to do cupping.’” (Reported by Ibn Maajah; it has corroborating evidence which strengthens it). Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was treated with cupping, and he paid the cupper his fee.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 10/124; Muslim 1202). Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger of Allaah was treated with cupping by Abu Tayyibah. He commanded that he should be given two measures of food, and he spoke with his tax-collectors, who reduced his taxes. He said, “The best treatment you can use is cupping.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 10/126; Muslim, 1577) With regard to the times when cupping is recommended: It was reported from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best times to be treated with cupping are the seventeenth, nineteenth or twenty-first [of the month].” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 2054; the isnaad is da’eef). It was reported from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever wants to be treated by cupping, let him do it on the seventeenth, nineteenth or twenty-first, lest the blood flow too copiously and kill him.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 3489; there is some weakness in the report). Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever is treated with cupping on the seventeenth, nineteenth or twenty first, will be healed from all diseases.” (Reported by Abu Dawood, 3861, and al-Bayhaqi, 9/340. The isnad is hasan). Although the ahaadeeth quoted above are from different sources and may be weak to some extent, they give strength to one another. Imaam Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “These ahaadeeth coincide with what the doctors agree on, that cupping should be done in the second half of the month, and that the third quarter of the month is better than the beginning or the end. But if cupping is done out of necessity it is beneficial at any time, even at the beginning or end of the month. Al-Khallaal said: ‘Ismah ibn ‘Isaam told me: Hanbal told me: Abu ‘Abd-Allaah Ahmad ibn Hanbal would be treated with cupping whenever his blood increased, no matter what time it was… They disliked having cupping done on a full stomach, because that could lead to obstruction and grievous diseases, especially if the food was heavy and bad… Choosing the times mentioned above for cupping is an extra precaution, to be on the safe side and to protect one’s health, but when it comes to treating disease, whenever it is necessary it should be used. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “According to the doctors, the most efficacious cupping is that which is done at the second or third hour, after having intercourse or taking a bath, etc., and neither on a full nor empty stomach. With regard to specific days for administering cupping, it was reported in a hadeeth narrated from Ibn ‘Umar by Ibn Maajah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Administer cupping, may Allaah bless you, on Thursdays, and administer cupping on Mondays and Tuesdays, but avoid cupping on Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.’ It was reported with two da’eef isnads, and there is a third version, also da’eef, reported by al-Daaraqutni in al-Afraad. He also reported it with a jayyid isnaad from Ibn ‘Umar but it is mawqoof (the isnad stops at the Sahaabi). Al-Khallaal reported that Ahmad disliked cupping on the days mentioned, even though the hadeeth was not proven. It was said that a man was treated with cupping on a Wednesday and he developed leprosy because he ignored the hadeeth. Abu Dawood reported from Abu Bakrah that he disliked cupping on Tuesdays, and said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Tuesday is the day of blood, and on that day there is an hour when blood does not stop.’ The doctors are agreed that cupping in the second half of the month, especially in the third quarter, is more beneficial than cupping at the beginning or end of the month. Al-Muwaffaq al-Baghdaadi said: The body fluids (humours) flow heavily at the beginning of the month and calm down at the end, so the best time to let the blood flow is in the middle of the month.” It is clear from the above that the ahaadeeth which specify a particular time, when taken as a whole, indicate that there is a basis for this, especially since the words of the doctors are in agreement with it. If the seventeenth or nineteenth or twenty-first of a hijri month happens to be a Thursday, this is the best possible time for cupping, but this is not to say that it is not good to do it at other times. As a form of medical treatment, cupping should not be restricted to any particular time; it should be done as needed by the patient. It is essential to make sure that you do it properly; cupping should be done by one who is experienced and he or she should use instruments that are properly cleaned and sterilized. The cupper must also ensure that no blood reaches the stomach of the patient. We ask Allaah to help us and you to follow the Sunnah. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad. See: Fath al-Baari by Ibn Hajar, 10/149; Sharh al-Zarqaani ‘ala al-Muwatta’, 2/187; al-Mughni by Ibn Qudaamah, 1/184; al-Ma’aad by Ibn al-Qayyim, 4/60. |
| The Cutting of the Hair |
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| AbuKhaled |
| 05/19/05 at 03:52:15 |
| Ya Sidi Abu_Hamza Wa-alaikum assalam wa rahmatullah. (Must’ve done something to upset you is the only conclusion I can draw…) Thanks for the explanation, I was way off. Perhaps you could let me know why it is that down these ways, every time I go for hijaama, I come back with a lot less hair… Y’know, you and Sister Se7en should try this new thing we have here. It’s called talking. Absolutely brilliant… Revolutionary in fact. You do it when you’re in the same room, or on the phone even. It works as an alternative to communicating by MessageBoards. It’s really good, honest. How are you Sidi? Better than the other, ahem, Abu Hamza I hope… never did figure out why you modelled yourself after him… My warmest regards to you both, Abu Khaled |
| NS |
| 05/19/05 at 03:55:43 |
| AbuKhaled |
| hope this helps... |
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| rkhan |
| 05/19/05 at 09:53:06 |
| [quote] Perhaps you could let me know why it is that down these ways, every time I go for hijaama, I come back with a lot less hair… [/quote] In Urdu, barber= hajjaam [from hijaamah] [quote] Why do barber shops have red and white barber poles?? Source: Tell Me Why Arkady Leokum Ever wondered why barbers use a red and white pole as a sign of their profession? What has a barber pole got to do with cutting hair? The truth is that it has nothing to do with a barber's work today. BUt a long time ago barbers used to perform certain minor operations on people called "bleeding". This meant that the patient would allow some blood to be taken out from diffrent parts of his body and it was believed that when this "bad blood" left the body the patient would become well. In order to perform the operation, the barber would ask the patient to hold onto a pole tightly, every barber had a pole and bandages ready in his shop. When the pole was not being used, the bandages were fastened to it and it was placed in the doorway of the shop as a sign that the barber was a good bleeder.." [/quote] Also, check out this thread inshaaAllaah http://forums.almaghrib.org/showthread.php?t=1448&highlight=hijaamah |
| hijaamah |
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| Abu_Hamza |
| 05/19/05 at 12:29:03 |
| [slm] It's a pleasure to have you posting here again Abu Khaled. We missed you. [quote](Must’ve done something to upset you is the only conclusion I can draw…) [/quote] Akhi check your email. If you don't see an email from me, please email me. [quote]Thanks for the explanation, I was way off. Perhaps you could let me know why it is that down these ways, every time I go for hijaama, I come back with a lot less hair…[/quote] :) I wonder what happens when you go for "cup-ping" :) [quote]Y’know, you and Sister Se7en should try this new thing we have here. It’s called talking. Absolutely brilliant… Revolutionary in fact. You do it when you’re in the same room, or on the phone even. It works as an alternative to communicating by MessageBoards. It’s really good, honest. [/quote] Akhi, that's the problem. *You* have it down *there*. You see, the way things work in the rest of the world is: women talk, and (good) men listen. So we have to find more ingenious ways to get our point across sometimes. ::) (I think someone's gonna do my "hijaamah" now, ahem). Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh :) |
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| jannah |
| 05/19/05 at 15:57:34 |
| slm, I had this whole skit planned for their wedding: 7 is sitting in front of her computer with bebzis littered all around her.. every now and then she laughs and types furiously then AbuHamza walks in and doesn't say a word goes into the next room and sits down at the computer and we can see his computer on a big screen and he types in "salam honey i'm home!" and 7 writes back "how was ur day!" lol then next scene AbuHamza comes home and 7 runs to show him the little mini-mac computer she bought. She says: Guess what I bought today! and He says: We're having a baby?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahahhahaha too bad we never did it... |
| Cupping... |
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| Emerald |
| 05/23/05 at 10:33:57 |
| I'm just curious....with all these ahadith about cupping....no mention of risk of infection? How about sterilization of the knife? How can removing a few ml's of blood cleanse the WHOLE body? Also, isn't causing injury to the body (which really belongs to Allah {swt}) by cutting the skin against the teachings of Islam?? Why not go to a phlebotomist and doing it by needle if the whole point is to remove blood? What about women going through their menstrual cycle? Thanks for all the ahadith you've provided but they all repeat the same thing but don't explain WHY cupping is beneficial. My point is that our deen and sunnah does not tell us to do or not do something without there being a logical reason behind it. |
| give blood |
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| tree |
| 05/23/05 at 10:38:39 |
| [slm] giving blood is a good way for purification, as the body regenerates and replaces the lost blood cells you've donated, and it's also a valuable resource for hospitals, etc. But i would like to try cupping and have been trying to find someone who does it here, but not found anyone yet. I think you should try it, and let us know how you feel afterwards ;) |
| The HAJAM must have experience |
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| sal |
| 05/24/05 at 03:36:13 |
I think the HIJAMAH is not meant just to remove the blood but it is a kind of treatment with special conditions, It is to be done on special days of the month and not any time and any day ,and any one to provide the necessary effect other wise I think it is useless to do it , so one must be very cautious and know its conditions first In Madinah Al Munawarah it is familiar but there are special people who are qualified and given license for this kind of treatment, Some hospitals are now also practicing this by modern doctors under the same condition of HIJAMAH (not blood donating) for those who prefer and want to make sure the tools are clean and sterilized, the cups are sold in pharmacies here in Saudi Arabia I have seen many people who have done this and say they found it very useful but when experienced person does it |
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