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Caraj
08/30/05 at 05:49:26
I guess you can consider this a review:

I was invited to a forum on the
whyislam.org site
If you are against rude people, being belittled and
reading Non Muslims put down Muslims,
then this would not be the place for you.

I'm so happy at this board, Jannah, Bhaloo and the rest of the mods
don't tolerate such behavior.
They say it is showing tolerance and in the name of dawah.
If this is the case they are much better people than me.
I found several Non Muslims who are full of hatred and are so
rude it sickens me. And it is allowed (or called tolerance)

If you like a good debate and have a strong tolerance and back bone
and can deal with the hatred it's the place to be.
I feel so bad saying this, Cause it would be such a nice forum
if it had some rules.

One Non Muslim man seems to have taken a strong dislike for me
as I have angered him and now posts insults and rude comments
in posts I have started and it is allowed.

Please be careful, for me the site has caused much
anger and frustration. I don't recommend it.
I'll not be there again.

08/30/05 at 05:51:22
Caraj
Re: whyislam.org forum
jannah
08/30/05 at 09:18:22
wlm,

thanx azizah it's a hard balance to make... boards that attract missionaries and people against islam tend to post stuff that makes the muslims post stuff so it ends up being more lively with more ppl.. but seriously i don't know what the purpose is. is it worth it in the end?

well i'm going to leave registration on here and hopefully we'll get some more lively people to join us the next month or so until ramadan

take care
Re: whyislam.org forum
Kathy
09/03/05 at 12:08:02
[slm]

I am a facilitator on WhyIslam.org  While I find that Azizah's comments are true, there is a whole other side to the forum that has not been addressed and goes unnoticed.

Rarely do I post on the forums, mainly because of my lack of time I am able to commit to conversations started.

There is a huge amount of people who are genuinely curious about Islam and come to the site requesting more information.  WhyIslam does send requested info and even have a Muslim get back to them in one on one e-mails. These are very effective. Many people have become Muslim and posted their stories. Most forums have a hidden 'bat cave' where the mods meet. In there I am privledged to read the success stories, those who are still searching, the methods being used, as well as reverts struggles.

Sure it is true Muslim bashers and missionaries post, but any sane intelligent person, who is searchg for the truth, can see the holes and errors in their judgements and teachings, which make us look even better!

I am sorry that this has happened to Azizah. She makes a good point about jannah's site. The rules are there for a reason. She has choosen the type of conversational limits for the good of this board. Her hard work and perseverance has definately paid off. Sometimes I have disagreed with her in closing or even leaving open a topic, but I must remember it is her site and she gets to choose the ambiance. At least people feel free to post concerns and not be worried that they will be bashed, but delt with islamically.

Subhanna Allah, it has remained a good and vibrant board.

WhyIslam has its very positive points also. Just need to be a little more thick skinned to deal with the real worlds people and not just Muslims.
Re: whyislam.org forum
Caraj
09/03/05 at 16:43:27
I do totally agree with Sister Kathy in regards
www.whyislam.org itself is wonderful. I spoke with a sister from that site
about 3 years back and was mailed with rather surprising promptness
pamplets I requested.
My post is about the forum, not the organization.

As to the thick skinned part. You know there is much meaness
and hatred in the world. We all deal with it. I chose not to, as it
developes such unproductive anger in my heart.
I know my limits. I think there is a big difference betwen
tolerance for the sake of dawah and just being a mat the hateful hearts
can step on. I truly believe once they decide to enforce some basic rules
there inshallah, it will be a wonderful forum inshallah.

I'll stick with jannah.org
Sometimes no amount of argueing and thick skin will
change a heart, Only Allah can change a heart.
Not our tolerance, not our patience. Only Allah can change the heart
of a person, we can only be the tools the servents in which he
uses should he wish to use any of us.

I certainly do not wish to put whyislam.org down at all.
It was only the forum I speak of.
I think due to my life's circumstances I limit my
exposure to such hatred and meaness from people.
When it becomes unproductive or causes others to not want to be around
then it need to be looked at.
As to any sane person seeing past this.
Sister Kathy, you know you have my respect, we talk off the board.
Think of it this way.
Sane people go shopping all the time, (shopping for food, for info, etc)
If the parking lot has no space, or it is to crowed and people are hateful,
shoving and shouting most sane people I know usually go somewhere else
or come back later. If I am treated rudely or see someone being treated rudely
in a store or other place, I usually leave and do not return to give
it my business.
For the sake of dawah maybe this should be given some thought.
Just my opinion and sister you should know by now
How opinionated I am  ;D
Love Ya Sis
09/03/05 at 16:54:02
Caraj
Re: whyislam.org forum
Halima
09/04/05 at 11:45:16
[slm]
Sis azizah wrote:
I think there is a big difference betwen tolerance for the sake of dawah and just being a mat the hateful hearts can step on.

How true! Especially where you need to potray the goodness in Islam that is not always addressed and some people just don't want to see or even hear about it. Hence they just decide to be rude and obnoxious.  But then again, as you have said Sis azizah, sometimes, the best thing is to walk away or ignore such people completely.  Being who you are, it doesn't make you a door mat but a smart person who retreats to come back stronger the next time to put her points across clearly and openly. Easier said that done but I can see that you are already doing that.

I am also not one of those people who takes rudeness and rude people kindly or let's somone walk all over me.  But with age and "wisdom", I am earning to see beyond the venom.  A tough act for someone like me.

Maybe being one if the facilitators behind the scenes, Sis Kathy can convey this message.  Killing a spirited dialogue is sometimes not good but moderation will certainly help.  It is better to be productive rather than destructive.

Hmm... I remember when there was lots of judgments being made here at jannah.org and there were even heated arguements which degenerated into abuse.  It reached a point where people were afraid to post.  But look where we are today on this forum and website.  No one is afraid to post anymore.  Respect for everybody's opinion and one another has made it feel like home.

[wlm]

Halima


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