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| Glory be! the Christian concept of God |
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| timbuktu |
| 10/29/05 at 02:40:38 |
| [slm] please feel free to suggest corrections. I wrote this piece after reading this topic on christianity.com, but before I could post, my previous sole post was removed, and I was banned, as have been others who are more polite. http://fcnforums.christianity.com/m_548180/mpage_3/tm.htm What do we have for God in Christianity? I will try to summarise what I understand One God but wait a minute there are three Godheads they are different, yet they are One they are separate yet inseparable amazing don't call it stupid call it incomprehensible for Faith is amazing One is the Father don't call Him God yet for He is one of three persons Other is the Son begotten of the Father yet equal to Him and both from Eternity also eternal is the third the Holy Ghost together they make One as also separately now you can call Him God without forgetting that the Son is also God the Holy Ghost is also God yet they aren't three Gods confused no matter call it Faith the Father sent His Son 100 percent man and hundred % God wait another minute how can that be? hundred percent of both don't ask call it Faith it is lovely isn't it? Faith will always rescue you so the Father sent His Son His only begotten Son what does begotten imply? sexual intercourse but we can't have that this begetting did not involve sex at all never mind forget the meaning of begotten He begot without having sex just take it on Faith Faith, that rescuer of all things contradictory God is free of sexuality at least that is common to Islam and Christianity so the Father sent His Son for what, you ask as a prophet? to set mankind on the straight path? once again? like the prophets before him? no, silly not as a prophet for then it would become almost al-Islam the religion and the way prescribed by God it would become the religion of Abraham it wouldn't allow worship of man while the whole idea is to twist the mind of mankind so that we can worship man as equal to God that is why God has no Son and the Son is Crucified on the Cross he exclaimed "why has't Thou forsaken me?" he himself is God if he is, why does he pray to God he is inseparable from God he is equal to the Father yet he prays to the Father makes sense? no! doesn't matter take it on Faith Faith is all you need the Son died on the Cross Good News for you and me if only we accept that his sacrifice was atonement for our sins if only we would accept that God isn't Just that He sacrificed His Son His only begotten Son for us (never mind the contradictions) then we could live a life of abandon fornication, rape exploitation, colonisation drunkennness murder, plunder, torture now you understand where colonialism comes from? why are wars fought? why are cities bombed? why are babies killed? and maimed? why is there a Guantanamao? and an Abu Gharaib? and a Bagram? and others? why depleted Uranium shells are rained on the land of the weak? for no matter what you do if you accept Jesus as the Son his crucifixtion as atonement for your sins then Glory be you are saved don't call it a fib a story a wishful thought call it Faith Glory be! |
| 10/29/05 at 02:49:53 |
| timbuktu |
| Re: Glory be! the Christian concept of God |
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| thezman |
| 10/29/05 at 03:43:18 |
| [slm] lol, I'd ban you also if you attacked or mocked Islam... Seriously what you cited makes sense, but I can see why they got upset. Religion is a very sensitive issue to everyone who adheres to a faith... I've dropped the gloves many times on other forums when it comes to critiquing different religions... If he is a god and came down with a specific mission, why is he asking about what went wrong? If he died for humanity's sins, why do they still repent? did god the father actually take mary as a bride, since jesus was the son of god? or was she just a vehicle (like a test tube?) No Offense Intended to non-Muslims... |
| 10/29/05 at 03:48:30 |
| thezman |
| Oh, no |
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| timbuktu |
| 10/29/05 at 04:05:53 |
| [slm][quote author=thezman link=board=lighthouse;num=1130564438;start=0#1 date=10/29/05 at 03:43:18] lol, I'd ban you also if you attacked or mocked Islam...[/quote] :horrified look: sorry, I did not make it clear that this wasn't posted on that forum. I am not impolite. I only aksked why they had banned another poster who is even more polite than I am. He happens to be able to debate the Bible verse by verse, so they banned him. |
| Re: Glory be! the Christian concept of God |
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| thezman |
| 10/29/05 at 04:17:02 |
| [slm] I know, but its also that you and the other person are able to refute their claims with facts and logic. So instead of looking bad in front of the forum members and have you guys shedding some light on these issue which would make the forum members start to question their faith, it's much easier to ban people instead. |
| Re: Glory be! the Christian concept of God |
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| Ember |
| 11/01/05 at 10:29:49 |
| [slm] Don't you think the poem has a tone of sarcasm? It seems to mock, rather than clarify. I don't know... What do you think...? |
| Re: Glory be! the Christian concept of God |
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| timbuktu |
| 11/02/05 at 09:24:17 |
| [slm] yes, a first reading would give that impression. It was written when christianity.com made insulting remarks about Allah (swt), the last prophet [saw], and the Quran, and misquoting the Quran. When some Muslims started explaining, they were banned, without any reason. When I registered and asked what one of them had done to face banning, I was thrown out, too. The poor Christians on the site thought that the Muslims have no answer to their questions, and have run away. It was not written as mocking, but to show how blocked some people's minds are. However, Muslims persisted in trying to get in, and to bring up this matter of banning (discussed on IoL), and at present a Muslim is doing quite fine there. Perhaps the Mods there have decided to be a little lax. |
| 11/02/05 at 09:36:03 |
| timbuktu |
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